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Label on back of Sylvania/GTE "Sun Stick" fixture

Label on back of Sylvania/GTE "Sun Stick" fixture

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Here is the label where you can see this thing says "Disposable Fluorescent Fixture". I have seen cheesie fixtures, but never any that actually ADMIT it! LOL

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Nov 18, 2010 at 10:20 PM Author: don93s
Interesting! I bought a bunch of F40 sunstick lamps about 5 years ago from Lowes and they are 5000k (same as F40/Design 50) and half had mercury starved problems after a few thousand hours...thanks to new standards at the time requiring mercury reduction which caused many lamp malfunctions.
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Nov 18, 2010 at 10:36 PM Author: arcblue
Really? I have a whole case of the "Sunstick" F40's (mine say Design 50 on the etch) so I hope they don't meet the same fate. I thought they were the last of the full-mercury lamps (no "Ecologic" etch) so that's why I got them.

This "disposable fixture" is a trip though...pretty much any fluorescent or HID fixture that can be purchased today at Lowe's or Home Depot should also sport such a label....

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Nov 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM Author: DieselNut
Ain't that the truth!?

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Nov 18, 2010 at 11:08 PM Author: don93s
Yeah I remember reading in a Grainger catalogue about reduced mercury in effect before the green etches even came out. Was it EPAct? Can't remember.
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Nov 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM Author: xmaslightguy
LOL i recognized that label even from the small 'preview' image i've got the remains of one of these fixtures laying around in the shed.

Colored Flourescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome, the modern 'white' ones are kinda boring...

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Nov 19, 2010 at 05:13 PM Author: Kev
I think all fittings these days are designed to last a good hard 5 years and then for the electronic ballast to fail thus most people just change the fitting when the ballast goes Which means more lights sold for the manufactures. Thats my theory behind it all, If say Thorn design a fitting that only lasts 5-10 years they make more money than if they make an old 8 foot that will last 40-50-forever! I believe that is why they keep going on about how inefficent 8 foots are. They want to replace them with limited life fittings?

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Nov 19, 2010 at 06:19 PM Author: DieselNut
kevxsi16v, I think the same thing can be said for the JUNK sold in USA also. Those damn HO T5 things are JUNK. Most of the new T8 fixtures are JUNK...

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Nov 19, 2010 at 06:22 PM Author: Kev
Just wait til i get my camera fixed next week, Since i came on this site i have been saving up all the electronic ballasts so that is maybe 3 months? Put it this way i feel it is going to spark a debate!

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Nov 19, 2010 at 06:57 PM Author: xmaslightguy
LOL can't wait to see that pic kevxsi16v
I have my own personal 'collection' of dead electronic ballasts (but not that many since they're all from my own use) LOL

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A few years ago they went through the local Walmart store and replaced all lamps (and i believe ballasts too)...I was in there a couple days ago and noticed there are lots of spent lamps and a number of (probably) dead ballasts (some of the 5000k lamps have been replaced with 4100k)
Also some entire banks of lights were out (this store has a system that will dim or even turn off the lights depending on how bright sunlight is ... I'm gonna guess that the controllers for those banks of lights that were out have also failed (as it was dark outside))

Colored Flourescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome, the modern 'white' ones are kinda boring...

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Nov 20, 2010 at 04:29 AM Author: Kev
Lol the stoes i look after have the same system it is controlled through a Trend panel! The ballasts they used in these stores are Tridonic and Philips Switch dim. The philips is much more reliable! Sounds like some sort of supply problem in that store, The problem i was having was that the HF ballasts were litterly blowing up and taking out main run fuses! So you would loose say 6 fittings just because one ballast blew up! Crap!
On another note i do not believe that this is a disposible fitting as it is a preheat you know that the ballast will do a lot more than just the one tube!

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Nov 20, 2010 at 09:19 AM Author: DieselNut
@kevxsi16v, it can be easily reused by one of us, but to do that requires a lot of careful prying to get it apart. It would have to be shortened a little and then run a F15T12 lamp, as the lamp in it is an odd length (between the length ot a F15 and F20. It is not "intended" to be replaced but you know us crazy lighting folks could do it!

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