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Re: No LED « Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 08:20:38 PM » Author: wattMaster
"Maybe a better idea is to get all of the old double highbays saved, rather than being thrown out."

Yes, do that. Wink
If I have enough storage for them all. Embarrassed
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Re: No LED « Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 08:22:34 PM » Author: nicksfans
You can always donate or sell what you can't keep.
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Re: No LED « Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 08:24:08 PM » Author: wattMaster
Maybe some of the members here will be getting a double highbay. Kiss
But I need a chance to tell them before January.
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Re: No LED « Reply #18 on: September 09, 2016, 06:20:10 AM » Author: Ash
You are acting as if LEDs are the inevitable option. What happened to more up to date MH technologies or T8 ?
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Re: No LED « Reply #19 on: September 09, 2016, 03:14:06 PM » Author: wattMaster
You are acting as if LEDs are the inevitable option. What happened to more up to date MH technologies or T8 ?
Or even T5?
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Re: No LED « Reply #20 on: September 09, 2016, 03:48:26 PM » Author: Ash
That too. However, T5 is only marginally more efficient than the best T8, while being more glary. So for the applications where its bare tube visible T8 is the better choice. With diffuser T5 may be the better choice (by efficacy it is, but then should be counted in other considerations like costs and so on)
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Re: No LED « Reply #21 on: September 10, 2016, 07:48:30 AM » Author: wattMaster
That too. However, T5 is only marginally more efficient than the best T8, while being more glary. So for the applications where its bare tube visible T8 is the better choice. With diffuser T5 may be the better choice (by efficacy it is, but then should be counted in other considerations like costs and so on)
Then why are the companies pushing T5?
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Re: No LED « Reply #22 on: September 10, 2016, 08:08:05 AM » Author: Ash
Hype around the thing itself, same as with LEDs. I guess also they have higher markup on the prices of T5 gear and tubes, before the market pushed them down for as long as it had with T8

But for a change T5 are really good or best choice for many applications, mainly where there is optic system that hides the tube. The reasons why to sometimes choose T8 for such applications is possibility to retrofit existing lumianires, availability of more types of T8 tubes with different Phosphors, as T5 are made only with Triphosphors, and costs
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Re: No LED « Reply #23 on: September 10, 2016, 09:35:20 AM » Author: wattMaster
I would think T5 would be better for high bay lighting because they have a higher normal operating temperature, and in a big, hot warehouse, that's a good thing.
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Re: No LED « Reply #24 on: September 10, 2016, 09:41:12 AM » Author: Ash
That would depend on time of the year and on ventilation conditions for that place. In the winter or at night the temperature can be quite low

My primary thought was glare - I'd assume the tubes to be installed in open reflector luminaires or with flat clear Glass cover. When somebody is looking up towards a high shelf, especially when trying to read something on a box that stands up there, the lower glare of T8 is desirable
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Re: No LED « Reply #25 on: September 10, 2016, 09:44:03 AM » Author: Zarlog
That would depend on time of the year and on ventilation conditions for that place. In the winter or at night the temperature can be quite low

My primary thought was glare - I'd assume the tubes to be installed in open reflector luminaires or with flat clear Glass cover. When somebody is looking up towards a high shelf, especially when trying to read something on a box that stands up there, the lower glare of T8 is desirable
I am pretty sure that in Florida it is warm year-round. Correct me if I am wrong though.
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Re: No LED « Reply #26 on: September 10, 2016, 03:57:10 PM » Author: wattMaster
I am pretty sure that in Florida it is warm year-round. Correct me if I am wrong though.
You are very correct, it can feel like summer in winter! Cool
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Re: No LED « Reply #27 on: September 11, 2016, 03:06:50 AM » Author: dor123
I found an article about light pollution, that, amazingly better,  blames the LED technology as a cause that worsen the situation, because of its glare levels compared to older lighting technologies: (Google translated article) (Original untranslated article) . Surprisingly, I almost didn't found in this article any false information or BS content compared to articles like this and this .
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Re: No LED « Reply #28 on: September 11, 2016, 06:07:11 AM » Author: wattMaster
Now I just need a way to show them this information.
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Re: No LED « Reply #29 on: September 11, 2016, 06:24:21 AM » Author: dor123
The blue rich spectrum of LED lighting can also cause this in the long terms.
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