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It's happening (I think) « on: July 29, 2017, 12:39:13 PM » Author: RyanKorponay12
All along my street there are green lamp polls with ubidoor fixtures on them and every single one has pink tape on it saying hole depth and stuff I think there replaceing the old 70's green polls with unpainted silver polls with a flyswater led on it, this makes me so sad these ubidoors are so rare and they have bin here since I was born ( we have never moved) I hope the pink bands mean something else
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #1 on: July 29, 2017, 01:07:16 PM » Author: xmaslightguy
Yep..sounds like they're getting ready to do an "upgrade" :(

Maybe you'll get lucky & be there to see it happen, possibly even ask if you can have the old light!
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #2 on: July 29, 2017, 02:12:38 PM » Author: Beta 5
When the council replaced the Beta 5s on my road with Phosco P567A's, they put an orange spot of paint on the ground, a few inches from the old concrete pole (this was in January 2014). Then by September, they had installed new Phosco galvanized steel columns, a few days later, P567A's appeared. They disconnected and removed the Beta 5s :(, and just left it for 2 months, the whole road in darkness, until finally in November 2014, they bothered to actually change the supply over to the new poles, and the lanterns were finally lit.
Atleast they are magnetically ballasted HPS, and not awful LED fly swatters.
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #3 on: July 29, 2017, 03:18:36 PM » Author: RyanKorponay12
should i take the tape off the polls and they might not change them?
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #4 on: July 29, 2017, 03:23:14 PM » Author: HomeBrewLamps
should i take the tape off the polls and they might not change them?

Doubt that'd do any good, if anything it'd just cause inconvenience, just let time run its course, some things cant be stopped no matter how hard you try, the best thing i'd recommend you do is wait and see... if they end up removing the fixtures approach them and see if you can have them or at least a few of them, if they say no just enjoy the memories you had when they were around, thats really all that can be done
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #5 on: July 29, 2017, 10:07:03 PM » Author: RyanKorponay12
Doubt that'd do any good, if anything it'd just cause inconvenience, just let time run its course, some things cant be stopped no matter how hard you try, the best thing i'd recommend you do is wait and see... if they end up removing the fixtures approach them and see if you can have them or at least a few of them, if they say no just enjoy the memories you had when they were around, thats really all that can be done

okay fair enough it makes me really sad actually and if i do catch them taking it down what should i say to them?  should i say something like "hello by any chance would i be able to get one of those cobra heads there Exceedingly rare and i have a lighting collection" is that good?? idk what i would say honestly
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #6 on: August 02, 2017, 12:39:06 PM » Author: xelareverse
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #7 on: August 02, 2017, 01:20:28 PM » Author: Beta 5
I left a note on the ones on my road as I was out when they removed them, but they ignored them  >:(
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #8 on: August 02, 2017, 03:29:28 PM » Author: AngryHorse
When the council replaced the Beta 5s on my road with Phosco P567A's, they put an orange spot of paint on the ground, a few inches from the old concrete pole (this was in January 2014). Then by September, they had installed new Phosco galvanized steel columns, a few days later, P567A's appeared. They disconnected and removed the Beta 5s :(, and just left it for 2 months, the whole road in darkness, until finally in November 2014, they bothered to actually change the supply over to the new poles, and the lanterns were finally lit.
Atleast they are magnetically ballasted HPS, and not awful LED fly swatters.
We didn`t even get a warning on our road, AND Cheshire Highways did it on a Saturday!!, I left at 7 in the morning to take my girls Christmas shopping, (under concrete columns lit with SOX), and returned to steel columns carrying LED!!! :o, not so bad though, as we got Philips Uni-streets which, (for LED), are a decent lantern.
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #9 on: August 02, 2017, 09:32:18 PM » Author: HomeBrewLamps
i dont understand why they swap out SOX for LED when SOX is more efficient... and less light pollution... and the fixture is actually serviceable.. and it is more tham sufficent for people to see... you don't need colour rendering that much on a road people have more than proven that over the past years of having SOX and HPS lamps up and running
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #10 on: August 02, 2017, 09:39:45 PM » Author: Mercurylamps
Exactly, I've been used to SOX street lighting for my whole life and find it does the job well. I find the glare from LED street lights horrible as a driver and it is bad for night vision. SOX on the other hand is easier on the eyes and better for night vision. You have to feel sorry for professional drivers at night time when they get glared by LED and compact light sources, especially truck drivers as they are higher up in the cab.
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 06:16:34 AM » Author: HomeBrewLamps
sometimes i cant wait for the future when the light pollution is so bad that i can say "i told you so" to all the peoples who argued with me that LED is so great for everything... i don't hate LED... i hate stupid people who don't take any other facts into consideration other than the ones they choose to if i were incharge of a country i wouldof converted everylamp to SOX rather than LED, preserves the nightsky, and comparable if not more energy savings.... if people wanted to complain about "poor colour rendering" i would just point to the many years they've delt with it on a daily basis and went along just fine.. my ideas may seem a bit socialistic, they are... i fall in that spectrum... but then again its not much different from the people up in the government pushing LED

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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 07:30:57 AM » Author: Mercurylamps
In my opinion white light sources on the roads aren't anywhere near as good as good old SOX. White light sources are also confusing to natural life nearby, sea turtles being an example.
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 11:52:47 PM » Author: RyanKorponay12
yea they haven't replaced them yet (thankfully) but the leds that they use in Winnipeg are Spotlights they are garbage they light up the area right under it and nothing else
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Re: It's happening (I think) « Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 09:05:47 PM » Author: 589
yea they haven't replaced them yet (thankfully) but the leds that they use in Winnipeg are Spotlights they are garbage they light up the area right under it and nothing else

Yea I've noticed that with the ones Georgia power has been using to replace cobraheads. They have been replacing drop glass cobraheads with them 1:1. The problem lies in the fact that the illuminated area of the new flat LED Cobras is much smaller than the old fixtures and has a hard cutoff. Therefore, roads that were previously well lit are now very spotty. Not to mention the glare from them is painful to drive under. They're going to need almost twice as many or mount them twice as high to get the same coverage with the current distrobution type.
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