STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « on: December 31, 2017, 10:06:17 AM » Author: F96T12 DD VHO
All LED fixtures that I have seen are 5000K in color temp. It's the same color and the same lamp If I could I'd make everyone sign a petition to ban LED street lights Even a MH has more color difference than LED HPS, they should stay because it's warm an cozy light, I mean what if I want to sleep in a parking lot (I have before) I don't think 5000K isn't going to make me sleep with no buzzing. 2100K HPS has a better chance of making me sleep MV has lots of color (not color rendering wise). The classic green would look better than LED *Note* any HID lamp I just described, I'm not against any of them, I'm totally with them LEDs would be ok if they tried to re-create the exact color of any HID, but nooo they all seem to be 5000K, BTW 5000K isn't even daylight, it may say it tho it is fake. 6500K is daylight Who is with me, lets hear your discussion
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 05:03:57 PM » Author: Lightingguy1994
I wish they would use warm white LEDs only, the daylight ones are torture on the eyes
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 07:11:43 PM » Author: Rommie
Quote from: Lightingguy1994 on January 09, 2018, 05:03:57 PM I wish they would use warm white LEDs only, the daylight ones are torture on the eyes I just wish they'd use SOX
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 07:36:40 PM » Author: Lightingguy1994
Quote from: MissRiaElaine on January 09, 2018, 07:11:43 PM I just wish they'd use SOX  Yes! Even better
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 09:08:54 PM » Author: HomeBrewLamps
Quote from: MissRiaElaine on January 09, 2018, 07:11:43 PM I just wish they'd use SOX  TOo bad its pretty much obsolete nowadays (despite it being on par with LED in efficacy)
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 01:11:13 AM » Author: dor123
Most LED lanterns I've seen (Gaash Venus, Schreder Teceo 1 and 2), have 4000K, but some have 3000K, but still superglaring while dimly illuminates the road, compared to the former HPS lanterns, that they have been replaced.
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #8 on: January 11, 2018, 12:32:57 AM » Author: xmaslightguy
Quote from: F96T12 DD VHO All LED fixtures that I have seen are 5000K in color temp. Beginning late last year, I've started seeing warm-ish white (I'd say 3500k, but could be 3000k) LED streetlights.
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #9 on: January 11, 2018, 08:53:57 PM » Author: RyanF40T12
Some of the cities here started out with the 5000+k colors but have since been installing 4000k and 3000k.  Thankfully.  My community which is serviced by XCEL energy did their research and did 4100k LEDs for the major thoroughfares and are planning 3000k LEDs for the neighborhoods.
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 09:06:43 PM » Author: Rommie
Quote from: mdcastle on January 11, 2018, 09:01:59 PM The city of Shakopee is going with 3000K for residential areas unless the developer wants something different. Of course what the residents want is neither here nor there
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 09:50:19 PM » Author: FGS
Quote from: MissRiaElaine on January 11, 2018, 09:06:43 PM Of course what the residents want is neither here nor there   What residents? He mentioned developers so it's likely a new neighborhood is being built with new houses. There's no residents neither here nor there to ask until the place is built. Plus asking what each resident wants lighting their road is gonna be a nightmare. Each one has different tastes as for what should light residential roads. I want coated MV for residential, you wants LPS, Ash wants HPS, and so on. Who's the developer gonna pick? They'd pick whatever they want which in this case is 3000k LEDs. Plus do any of the majority of the average residents even care about what type of light is lighting their roads?
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 10:37:53 PM » Author: HomeBrewLamps
Quote from: FGS on January 11, 2018, 09:50:19 PM What residents? He mentioned developers so it's likely a new neighborhood is being built with new houses. There's no residents neither here nor there to ask until the place is built. Plus asking what each resident wants lighting their road is gonna be a nightmare. Each one has different tastes as for what should light residential roads. I want coated MV for residential, you wants LPS, Ash wants HPS, and so on. Who's the developer gonna pick? They'd pick whatever they want which in this case is 3000k LEDs. Plus do any of the majority of the average residents even care about what type of light is lighting their roads? Depends, this is not street light related, But earlier tonight i was riding with a friends mother home and we came up upon some utility workers doing their thing, with these bright glary (...) LED warning lights on, They are distracting and overwhelmingly bright and flashy... I'd bet if the wrong person came by they'd have a seizure (AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WOULD!!), she got pissed about it and started speaking of how she missed the "old revolver light thingies" I am totally on her side with this one... I hate those LED warning lights... they suck. that truck literally looked like a freaking UFO... No joke, I'm not exaggerating.... and this seems to be a common occurrence around here and neighboring cities.. And they've recently come out with these green ones .... I HATE THOSE MORE! they're even worse.... it adds insult to injury when they use both green and orange.. WTF!!! I know its to protect the workers but this is just too (...) much. when the driver cant even see what they're doing because some bright ass light is glaring in their face than what good is a warning light to begin with?? traffic pylons mounted with blinkers are more effective than this madness!
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	Re: STOP LEDISEASING ROADS AND PARKING LOTS « Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 11:26:53 PM » Author: xmaslightguy
Quote from: FGS Plus do any of the majority of the average residents even care about what type of light is lighting their roads? Honestly I don't think the average person even notices streetlights. (other than the simple fact they exist)
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