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LEDVANCE Sylvania F40T12/930s now made in Canada USA made Sylvania F40T12s are no more

LEDVANCE Sylvania F40T12/930s now made in Canada USA made Sylvania F40T12s are no more

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Still well made. The /930 T12s were the last USA made Sylvania T12s in the 4' length.

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Manufacturer:LEDVANCE
Model Reference:F40T12/930/ECO
Lamp
Lamp Type:LFL
Base:G13
Shape/Finish:T12
Service Life:20,000 hr
Electrical
Wattage:40w
Voltage:101v
Current:425mA
Optical
Lumen Output:3000
Color Temperature:3000K
Color Rendering Index:88
Physical/Production
Dimensions:48"
Factory Location:Drummondville, Quebec
Fabrication Date:September 2016

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Jan 13, 2017 at 06:53 PM Author: ace100w120v
Interesting, I had no idea! Canada is still decent but I think I'll buy Philips from now on as my first choice for F40s. USA made in Salina, Kansas and 24,000 hour rated lifespan. The full wattage Altos aren't bad.
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Jan 13, 2017 at 11:07 PM Author: Silverliner
The Sylvania 900 series T12s are the brightest on the market though. 3000 lumens for the above lamp.

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Jan 14, 2017 at 12:31 AM Author: nicksfans
When did the USA F40T12 production stop? I know the Canadian ones have been around for several years now.

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Jan 14, 2017 at 12:49 AM Author: Silverliner
Sometime last year. The Ecologic line was the last to go to Canada.

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Jan 14, 2017 at 07:59 PM Author: Powergroove
Sylvania quality has been going down hill since around 2003. They redesigned the electrodes on their VHO lamps around that time and also started using smaller egg crates in their lamp boxes. They try to lower production cost and claim lamp quality hasn't suffered. Less packaging = more breakage during shipping. Smaller electrodes = less lamp life.

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Jan 07, 2019 at 03:14 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
These lamps have a good lumen rating but don't let that fool you, the mercury levels in these lamps are to low for proper function. My use of these lamps has been disappointing. They start up dim and mercury migrated and very flickery on magnetic 0.80A ballast and if used on electronic, they still do the migration and take forever to get full brightness. They also appear very orange on electronic ballasts. One of my test lamps became mercury starved before I switched them out.

Now there is an update about these....
My last visit to Canadian tire where I had bought these, I noticed they are now made in the USA and bare the 'Made in USA' emblem on the package. The CW ones have been boosted up in their lumen ratings. The 34w case of 10 are 2150 lumens, the 40w pack of 2 is now 2500 lumens. I have not been able to see the WW or the daylight deluxe 5000K as they were out of stock for both. I will acquire 1 pack of2 lamps for WW , CW and DX and will have a post with my performance findings. Im hoping for improvements. The Canadian Tire website says the WW and the DX are 2900 Lumens

As it stands with the Canadian ones, the Philips CW Supreme lamps perform much better than the CWX Canadian Sylvania in brightness, colour and mercury. Supremes are 2600L, have a nice CW colour and start up full brightness each time in my light with no flicker or migrations of any kind.
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Jan 07, 2019 at 06:35 PM Author: xmaslightguy
Too bad the quality on these is crap.
In general I'm perfectly ok with stuff made in Canada.

3000lm is deff better than some out there, but 75lm/w is still pretty pathetic. If I was putting in lights that I was planning to use allot, I'd be sticking with T5...

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Jan 07, 2019 at 10:49 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Do you think the USA ones will be better? Seems the Canadian made ones have been discontinued
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Jan 08, 2019 at 05:14 PM Author: xmaslightguy
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Do you think the USA ones will be better? Seems the Canadian made ones have been discontinued

The earlier posts were saying the US ones were discontinued, and now the Canadian made ones too?...I wonder if the new US ones are actually manufactured by Sylvania? Or is some other company is manufacturing them?

Be nice if they improved not only the quality, but efficiency too. (though i kinda doubt it'd happen...)

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Jan 08, 2019 at 05:17 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
They are still made by ledvance but now the packs say made in usa, it was canada before and they were pretty poor performing tubes so hoping they will be better. At least the lumens were bumped up. As soon as I get pickup a pack i'll see how they are, mostly interested in the 5000K and WW ones
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Jan 08, 2019 at 05:52 PM Author: Silverliner
The recently reintroduced US made Sylvanias will be only for a short time. Ledvance decided to close the Versailles, KY plant this coming September.

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Jan 08, 2019 at 06:37 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
Noooo!!!

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Jan 08, 2019 at 06:47 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
I better get what i can then, especially if its true for the full spectrum daylight 5000K being 2900 lumens, something i still need to verify
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Jan 08, 2019 at 06:57 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
@Lightingguy1994: Design 50?

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Jan 08, 2019 at 07:03 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
They call them full spectrum daylight here but yes thats what it is basically
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Jan 08, 2019 at 07:39 PM Author: xmaslightguy
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They call them full spectrum daylight

Yep... a version of these .. what I simply call a Sylvania 'fake daylight'

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Ledvance decided to close the Versailles, KY plant this coming September

So does that mean no more Sylvania fluorescents in general? Or is there another plant somewhere in the US or Canada that could take over?

If Ledvance/Sylvania quits fluorescents...what does that leave(disregarding the off-brands like Industrial)? Just Philips??

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Jan 08, 2019 at 07:45 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Philips has been pretty good lately. In all 4 cases of 30 bulbs plus a contractors case of 30 i have. they all work great and do not show any sign of mercury issues and brightness is okay. I wish Philips cases of soft white were affordable. Its around $150 for a case of them. same with their 5000K, the CW plus and the DX
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Jan 08, 2019 at 08:13 PM Author: xmaslightguy
@Lightingguy1994:
Yep, I do agree there, the modern Philips lamps do seem to be ok
I have some DX, CWS, And SWDX

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Jan 08, 2019 at 08:31 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
@xmaslightguy: Danvers, MA shut down in 1998, and Drummondville, Canada, closed last year. With that being said, they could do these things:

- Source from another manufacturer.

- Make them in China (highly doubt it).

- Or stop making them completely.



GE is also still out there. They still make fluorescents in the US.

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Jan 08, 2019 at 08:34 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
The GEs I noticed, at least mostly with the warm white, also suffer similar issues as the Sylvania ones, with the dim flickering and mercury issues at startup. The daylight lamps from the GE are much better and cant tell you about the CW, they dont sell em here
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Jan 08, 2019 at 08:38 PM Author: xmaslightguy
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GE is also still out there. They still make fluorescents in the US.

I thought I remember reading somewhere (in the past year or so) that GE was quitting the lighting business?
Also kinda remember someone on here posting some new "GE" fluorescents at Lowes that were Philips made?

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Jan 08, 2019 at 09:07 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
I think you are talking about patricks photo and it was an F15T12 K&B but it was made in China .... lol .

The GE F40s dont seem to be philips, I personally thought they were made by sylvania, the K&B looked really similar to these sylvania ones above
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Jan 08, 2019 at 09:15 PM Author: Lumex120

The recently reintroduced US made Sylvanias will be only for a short time. Ledvance decided to close the Versailles, KY plant this coming September.

Really!? Sad that they are closing another American plant but not really surprising. They aren't opening a new overseas plant, are they?

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Jan 08, 2019 at 10:19 PM Author: Patrick
General Electric closed Circleville in 2017. Lamps produced there were outsourced, primarily to Philips, and included F96T12, F96T12/HO, and F15T12. Most other of the other U.S. GE fluorescent lamps are made at Bucyrus and were not affected. Some of the recently produced lamps have different end caps, but they are stamped USA and I believe they are still being made at Bucyrus. @jercar954 indicated the new caps looked Hungarian. It is curious that this style of cap showed up briefly on Sylvania lamps from Versailles, and now on some GE lamps presumably from Bucyrus.

The Bucyrus plant was retooled several years back for expanded halogen and T8 production. Hopefully GE won't close it anytime soon. They are looking to sell the lighting division. Last I heard only the European division was sold and the Current division is about to be sold, but the remainder is with General Electric for now.

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