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CLP F15T12 Snowhite - survivor of the postal abuse

CLP F15T12 Snowhite - survivor of the postal abuse

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That's the one literally packed in nothing more than the lamp sleeve and newspaper.

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Manufacturer:Sylvania for CLP
Lamp
Lamp Type:Fluorescent
Base:Medium Bipin
Shape/Finish:T12
Electrical
Wattage:15w
Optical
Color Temperature:5000K
Color Rendering Index:70
Physical/Production
Factory Location:Danvers, MA
Fabrication Date:1970s

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Jun 10, 2016 at 05:47 PM Author: veryhighonoutput
Ooh yeah! tough lamp to

T12/ t17 there's a reason they made heavy magnetic ballasts

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Jun 10, 2016 at 05:55 PM Author: rjluna2
Wow!

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Jun 10, 2016 at 06:47 PM Author: sol
Very nice, tough lamp you have there. Is it shown with a cool white ?
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Jun 10, 2016 at 06:55 PM Author: Silverliner
Yep, a cheap Indonesian GE made Ace F15T8/CW. By the way, Funkybulb got his in the same packaging, and one got smashed.

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Jun 10, 2016 at 06:57 PM Author: Solanaceae
I heard about Jeremy's. I thought of ordering, but glad I refrained. They're selling fast too.

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Jun 10, 2016 at 07:19 PM Author: ace100w120v
Wow, glad it survived! Since the CRI is only 70, was it supposed to be a cheaper and brighter alternative to stuff like GE "Chroma 50", Sylvania "Design 50", Westy/Philips "ColorTone 50" or Duro-Test/Duro-Lite "Vita-Lite"?

I'm assuming just some sort of /750 triphosphor, like a SP50 of sorts?
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Jun 10, 2016 at 07:23 PM Author: Silverliner
Yeah, it's a bridge between CW and D, but the big three never offered it.

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Jun 10, 2016 at 07:53 PM Author: ace100w120v
Weird, I'd think it would have been much more common!
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Jun 10, 2016 at 09:42 PM Author: don93s
Cool! I received three of these from the same seller today. Just like you said: wrapped only in a couple of layers of newspaper and some tape Miraculously they all made it intact!
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Jun 11, 2016 at 03:06 AM Author: veryhighonoutput
Now a days just about every chain store uses 5000k BJ's Walmart best buy

T12/ t17 there's a reason they made heavy magnetic ballasts

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Jun 18, 2016 at 07:32 PM Author: jercar954
I went to our BJs today and they changed out their T-5s for LEDs. Yuck!

Preheat and T-12 fluorescents forever! Down with LED's and instant start T-8 fluorescents.

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Jun 18, 2016 at 07:52 PM Author: veryhighonoutput
Nooooo!

T12/ t17 there's a reason they made heavy magnetic ballasts

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Jun 18, 2016 at 07:55 PM Author: Silverliner
Figures. It's no longer lit by LAMPS then. Just electronic gadgets that light up.

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Jun 18, 2016 at 09:00 PM Author: FGS
Lamps are gadgets even the 1890s ones. Different ways to make light.

The LEDs are a newer form of lamps. Who knows what other forms of lamps would be invented and sent out in mass production post-LEDs.

Why I like LEDs on top of other lighting tech?
LEDs = Upgrade 95% of the applications. (That is if you avoid eBay's LEDs).


LED brainwash? No, people uses them cuz they work well for them.

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Jun 18, 2016 at 11:21 PM Author: Silverliner
Knew you would buzz in, FGS.

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Jun 19, 2016 at 06:23 AM Author: FGS
You're welcome Silverliner.

That CLP is tough for sure!

Why I like LEDs on top of other lighting tech?
LEDs = Upgrade 95% of the applications. (That is if you avoid eBay's LEDs).


LED brainwash? No, people uses them cuz they work well for them.

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Jul 05, 2016 at 10:55 PM Author: ricksbulbs
FGS---LED's ARE GADGETS---nothing more than (...) glowing computer chips. I DESPISE them for general lighting, they can't even get light to the floor well at 13 feet high, but glare your eyes into submission. You like them, for what reason I cannot figure out. They are crap and not as efficient as fluorescent, and they ARE fluorescent ironically! They are being forced on us, leaving us no choice. When this happens, I will remove all my light fixtures, modern or antique and scrap them and put blank plates over the boxes. I will then install my over 100 year old open flame gas lights, running on LPG (propane) because propane has enough carbon to almost match the old producer type illuminating gas, essentially carbon monoxide, and will here ever after use these and use electricity to run the refrigerator, washer and dryer, and boiler etc, and my Hammond C-3 organ with Leslie 22-R cabinet. This lighting is crap, and is WAY WAY NOT what I thought it could be, and never WILL be what I expected. I also expected to still have all the traditional light sources available, but they are taking them away to force us to use Rube-Goldberg style glowing computer chips that last less than good quality fluorescent lamps do. What happened to the "100,000 hour" claims? Exactly---they will have them down to 750 hours and part of the fixtures soon. Well, they are part of many fixtures, but they WILL reduce the life. Burns out, install a new fixture--waste at it's best. They suck in outdoor lighting--even the so called "powerful" Cree Edge HO series are junk---12 feet is the height limit if you want to see any light on the ground, the optics suck eggs. they are glare bombs unlike any I have ever seen---like a 1000 watt clear MH lamp hanging in a socket on a drop cord, no reflector etc! At least the MH gets light to the ground! I have seen the big 830 watt Edge fixtures in use locally, and a 1000 watt /Dx merc will CREAM them in light output and optics! The 267 watt ones are popular, and cannot match a 175 merc in lumens (about 6100 for the Cree, 8700-8900 for the merc!) and they claim some are 11,500 lumens, in that size, but still can't spread the light out like a merc lamp and you need many more fixtures that use MORE watts! Screw this junk. We have some of these locally, 267 watters, 5000 K that are all greened out and at about half initial lumens, and are dimming fast, they are at EOL at 70% and are below that-in less than 4 years. G-A-R-B-A-G-E!!!!!!!!!! Give me an air soft and I will blow these POS and UGLY Cree Edge fixtures into a billion little pieces, including the crappy inefficient driver (call it what it IS a ballast!!!!) circuit, which should be shot through when energized, especially the 277 volt ones--pretty spark/arc show! Why the HELL would I install a glary and optically AWFUL 267 watt LED that cannot TOUCH a 175 or even 100 watt merc lamp in lighting effectiveness? It is backwards progress. Wait until China gets pissed off at us and cuts us off of the LED lamps for this junk, and the rare earths to make them. In my observation, any place lit by LED gets DARKER when they are turned on. They seem to "suck" the light out not give it! The LPS lamp did the same thing---areas lit by them seemed DARKER! If they are so good, why do they need huge, heavy, material wasting, and slightly toxic (aluminum---Alzheimers causer!) heat sinks? Because they overheat, crack, and fail because they are CRAP. Exciting new technology? Where? When I see LED's in parking lots and stores, I see corrupt politicians and outfits like NYSERDA using hard-earned taxpayer money to subsidize this garbage and it is LESS efficient than what it replaces! I see the government forcing us to this stuff and killing any other choices. I see people having future vision issues from the nasty light they make and the intense blue content, way worse than any HID or fluorescent ever was. I see pissed off lighting service men literally cutting this junk off of the poles because they use aluminum housings held together by steel or stainless steel screws with NO anti seize, or silicone grease on the threads. I know of a parking lot only months ago lit by beautiful and rare Westinghouse 1000 watt merc silverliner-derived parking lot fixtures, replaced by Kree Krap model QSQ fixtures that look like ugly giant fly swatters, with adjustable angle mounting knuckles with NO teeth, that slip constantly and leave the fixtures drooping down when a bird lands on them, already cobbled up with all thread and drilled holes to try to lock them in place and 2 or 3 different optics---some throw a not so bright spot on the ground abut the size of a small car with total darkness surrounding the weak "pool" of light, and others that spread it so much it never even reaches the ground---the light levels are like having 4 watt night light bulbs lighting the area---it is dangerous and dismal, but the contractor and NYSERDA thinks these taxpayer-funded LED pieces of CRAP are "great". They are totally, completely USELESS, and think--these haven't started to dim out yet and they are dismal! If these were at MY shopping plaza, the wires would be cut off short in the feeder box for them and in such a way they CANNOT be hooked back up. In fact the lot will be brighter with NO lights VS these crappy, obviously Chinese made Cree QSQ abominations and excuses for light fixtures. Sorry, bud, but you will NEVER make me believe that LED's will ever go anywhere but straight to the rubbish tip when they fail in 2-5 years, being paid for by taxpayer and utility surcharges money. If the people who own these malls etc want LED, buy it out of pocket. They will ONLY do LED if they are subsidized with "incentives" Read--money gotten by screwing John Q. Public to the wall with LONG screws! Shove 'em, they should be eliminated, they are ugly by day or night, and are prone to failure to boot---a good thunderstorm should kill most of the LED drivers nicely! One good direct or close hit on or near a pole, and all the LED fixtures will be dead or still working only to fail shortly later--like electronic fluorescent ballasts did at the mall I worked for--thunderstorm, and I had my work cut out for me replacing fried electronic ballasts! The magnetics laughed at it! The more of these things I see the more I hate em. Cheers!
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Jul 06, 2016 at 02:12 AM Author: Silverliner
Rick, if Texas becomes a country, MOVE THERE! They most likely will allow incandescents, Edison's brainchild.

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Jul 06, 2016 at 07:26 AM Author: FGS
Holy long comment batman dude!

Got pics to back up some of the claims you made? Especially the drilled thru the mounting knucles ones.

Aluminum? Isn't that the same stuff 99% of the classic light fixtures are made out of?

They need heatsink just as a computer brain needs one not because it's garbage. Open up you computer and remove the large aluminum heatsink off the motherboard and run that computer for a few minutes and see what happens.

I know LEDs won't go everywhere. And I don't mean the recycle/refurbish bin. I know they'll EOL in time like all other light sources. A decade or more for the best LEDs. Places they can't go: inside ovens, your house, the Amish's houses, and lava lamps.

Why I like LEDs on top of other lighting tech?
LEDs = Upgrade 95% of the applications. (That is if you avoid eBay's LEDs).


LED brainwash? No, people uses them cuz they work well for them.

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Jul 06, 2016 at 08:27 AM Author: rjluna2
Felipe, if you remove the heatsink from the Intel microprocessor, it will throttle down. But, if you do the same with AMD, it would fry.

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Jul 06, 2016 at 08:30 AM Author: funkybulb
@ FGS what a crock of turds for not being on topic about this lamp. your fangled dam LED pusher. Those Led i cant see turds under them and I have some vision impairment
I can no longer walk the city streets night
As most led street lighting cant even light up
Both sides of San Antonio streets.

No LED gadgets, spins too slowly.  Gotta  love preheat and MV. let the lights keep my meter spinning.

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Jul 06, 2016 at 08:42 AM Author: RCM442
This lamp shows that fluorescent is an amazing light source, and always will be! I can't stand the LED replacements for them, they suck and have no character at all! Fluorescent lamps are beautiful, and will always remain my favorite lamp!
@FGS, stop pushing LEDs on everyone, they will use whatever lamp types they want, even if it's not LED!
Yes, I have a few LEDs in my house, for now anyway, will probably switch them to incandescent later!

Linear fluorescent will never lose to LED!
I am not Anti-LED, as I have some in use at my house.
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Jul 06, 2016 at 08:55 AM Author: FGS
I don't care what you guys use for lighting. What I won't stand is the "crock of turds" people leaves on here against LEDs. Basically blatant lying in order to scare new members and guests on here away from LEDs before they even tried them.

Besides where exactly I pushed LEDs on someone?

Why I like LEDs on top of other lighting tech?
LEDs = Upgrade 95% of the applications. (That is if you avoid eBay's LEDs).


LED brainwash? No, people uses them cuz they work well for them.

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Jul 06, 2016 at 07:25 PM Author: xmaslightguy
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Felipe, if you remove the heatsink from the Intel microprocessor, it will throttle down.

Interesting...so basically thermal protection.
I thought it'd fry, since thats what I heard.


@ricksbulbs:
Wall of text there LOL
I don't know that LEDs are quite that bad... but I plan on keeping my fluorescents as fluorescent, and MV/HPS/MH at they are too.
I might eventually try out a couple of those 'filament-style' LEDs though, which in my opinion look way better than CFL's

Colored Fluorescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome...

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