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Mercury starved no name (Chuanshi) Chinese 32 watt circline

Mercury starved no name (Chuanshi) Chinese 32 watt circline

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Got this at the recycle center. It seems unused but definitely mercury starved. Fired right up on my vintage 32 watt preheat adapter but even after running for an hour, it still looked like this. Photo does not do it justice. It was actually much more purple and dimmer than the photo makes it look.

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Mar 31, 2014 at 09:52 AM Author: DetroitTwoStroke
I think you need to dig out one of your 400 Watt MH ballasts.

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Mar 31, 2014 at 12:42 PM Author: rjluna2
Indeed, it is definitely Mercury starved. Looks like just argon discharge that is glowing

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Apr 01, 2014 at 12:21 PM Author: DieselNut
Yea, this thing needs to be cooked, huh?

Preheat Fluorescents forever!
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Apr 01, 2014 at 02:05 PM Author: Danny
yeah send this off lol
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Apr 21, 2014 at 06:06 PM Author: jercar954
Almost looks like a plant light.

Preheat and T-12 fluorescents forever! Down with LED's and instant start T-8 fluorescents.

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Apr 18, 2015 at 03:20 PM Author: icefoglights
I found a mercury starved CFL in a motel room once. I mentioned it to the desk and they gave me a replacement. I kept the old one. It was different.

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Apr 18, 2015 at 04:03 PM Author: Solanaceae
I was helping a friend with her grandmas house and one of the CFLs in the outdoor lights were Mercury starved, so I changed it and kept it. It would start a dim pink, almost argon color and warm up to a peach like color.

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Jul 29, 2019 at 05:53 PM Author: Globe Collector
Still no spectrum. And without a spectrum we cannot determine why this lamp is not functioning as it should.
I think the term, "Mercury Starved" is a "follow the leader" term....one says it, another copies it and before long almost everybody is saying it without a shred of evidence....like somebody says the word, "gobble" next to a pen fill of turkeys and they all respond with "gobble, gobble, gobble".

I postulate that this is due to "air poisoning" .... although this is as unproven as the "mercury starvation" theory, when you think about it logically there are more conditions that support this idea.


1: The pressure on the outside is higher than the pressure on the inside.

Consiquences: It is more likely that small molecules from outside, (N2, O2) will find their way in than large atoms from the inside finding their way out, (against the pressure gradient).

2: Fluorescent lamps in this state run far hotter than when functioning as they were designed to (something that is usually easier to verify with one's sense of touch at the site than run a spectrum).

Assumptopn: Poly atomic molecules are carrying energy non-radiatevely away from the discharge plasma by rotation and vibration. Atoms, such as krypton, argon or mercury cannot rotate and vibrate so they cannot carry away anywhere near as much energy in a non-radiative manner as molecules can.

3: Low resolution spectra reveal absence of mercury lines.

Deduction: Small molecules are impacting excited mercury atoms and taking away their excitation energy before they can emit their resonance lines to excite the phosphor.

4: If, indeed the mercury charge dosed to the lamp at the plant has "gone away"....where has it gone and why? As far as I can tell, nobody has yet answered this question successfully or adequately with evidence to back up their claim. Why would the vapour pressure of mercury drop to virtually zero without the corresponding drop of temperature to virtually zero also, (as the Clausius-Capayron relation states.)

The reason why some fluorescent lamps transition into this "Zombie" state has been assumed by all...but that assumption has not been tested and as such nobody (yet) really knows the reason why some fluorescent lamps end up in this state.

French philosopher Auguste Comte famously once said that humanity would never be able to determine what the stars or planets are made of....spectroscopy proved him incorrect...thus, again, we need to apply spectroscopy to understanding] this issue rather that just copying the statements of others.


So somebody out there needs to get a good quality spectrum of reasonable resolution and sufficient intensity to see if any broad molecular bands are revealed. Currently no such spectrum exists as nobody has run one when seeing a lamp in this "zombie" state.



User "dor123" is a prolific taker of spectra, but refuses to upgrade his apparatus to sufficient resolution to be truly useful...other members seeing such zombie lamps either do not possess spectrascopes outright, or if they do, do not have them handy when seeing such a lamp or are unable to couple their spectroscope to their camera successfully.

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