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Full case Philips Ceramalux - November 1999 batch

Full case Philips Ceramalux - November 1999 batch

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Got these in from ebay. They are new old stock. I paid about 80 total for it which was cheaper than from local distributors plus these are better quality.

It does nor mention Alto anywhere on the box or packaging or lamps themselves

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Manufacturer:Philips
Model Reference:Ceramalux
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Lamp Type:HID - High Pressure Sodium
Base:E39 (Mogul)
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Wattage:70
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Color Temperature:2100K
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Fabrication Date:November 19 1999 Shift A

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Jul 19, 2018 at 08:14 AM Author: valirex
These are E27 base or E40?
From this pic it seems to be E40.

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Jul 19, 2018 at 08:47 AM Author: sox35
Yes it looks like E40, or it could be E39 as they're US made. Unusual for a 70W lamp if they are. I can just make out a manufacturing date on one of the boxes in the carton, but can't read it clearly, what is it..?

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Jul 19, 2018 at 09:44 AM Author: valirex

Yes it looks like E40, or it could be E39 as they're US made. Unusual for a 70W lamp if they are. I can just make out a manufacturing date on one of the boxes in the carton, but can't read it clearly, what is it..?


On that sticker what can i see is "manufactured: november 19 1999

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Jul 19, 2018 at 09:46 AM Author: Cal
Is it ceramic metal halide or HPS?
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Jul 19, 2018 at 09:52 AM Author: Lightingguy1994
Sorry about that

They are Mogul base for USA,
they are High Pressure Sodium and
were made November 19 1999 so titled November 1999 batch
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Jul 19, 2018 at 05:06 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
For anyone interested I posted a video of one of these lamps starting and warming up
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Jul 19, 2018 at 05:09 PM Author: sox35

For anyone interested I posted a video of one of these lamps starting and warming up

Got a link..?

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-Here-

It also can be found in my album titled ' Youtube Videos about lights" -Here-
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Jul 19, 2018 at 06:53 PM Author: streetlight98
Mogul base rare for 70W HPS? Not over here. Mogul base is the standard for all street lights in the US, with the exception of the few low wattage PSMH fixtures used, which are usually manufactured with a mogul socket and a mogul-medium reducer installed or an actual medium base socket. Most cobraheads have the former though, as they're not designed for a small medium socket. Typically only residential HID and "designer" HID (wallpacks, bollards, some post lights, etc.) here uses medium base HIDs. 35W HPS is the only HPS lamp here not available in mogul base. 35W HPS street lights are very very rare though.

Anyway, these pre-Alto Philips HPS lamps are very good lamps. You'd have great results with these if you were to use them in regular service. Once the low-mercury HPS lamps came out that was the end of it.

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Jul 19, 2018 at 08:05 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Same here most of the commercial HID lighting Ive seen are Mogul base, I do have a few 70w lamps with medium base, I'll have to get one of those reducer adaptors to be able to consider those lamps as spares. I do have a 150w medium base HPS cram lamp that came inside a wallpack, Id go as far to say that those are rare.

Its good that these lamps are good and I do plan to have them in service eventually as I do with most of my lighting. I think the coating on these might just actually be the phosphor used on MV lamps because these lamps give off magenta and purples when starting where as clear lamps give off blues and greens
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Jul 20, 2018 at 05:02 AM Author: sox35
Well now, that's interesting. Here, we don't see GES (E40, our equivalent of mogul) until 150-250W for most HID lamps, although when MV was common they did make some 125W ones with E40 bases. All HID lamps below 100W are invariably E27, with the exception of older 80/125W MV lamps which could be B22d-3 (3-pin BC).

On incandescent lamps, historically it's always been BC (B22d) for wattages under 200W, but it's E40 for larger lamps. Nowadays, E27 and E14 are becoming more common, with lighting fittings being imported from all over the place (mainly China grumble moan) so shops tend to stock lamps with both types of cap, E14/27 and B15/22).

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Jul 20, 2018 at 02:01 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
I've never seen a BC socket before other than in LPS / SOX fixtures. I also remember that I have a clear 100w GE Mercury Vapour lamp with a mogul base.

If anyone is interested in a case of these lamps, the seller I bought these from still has 1 case left for US 44.99 + shipping(this will be updated/removed if the ad changes)
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Jul 20, 2018 at 03:43 PM Author: streetlight98
HPS lamps are made in medium base for wattages up to and included 150W. Anything higher is mogul-only. All HPS besides 35W are made in mogul though. AFAIK, 100W MV is the only wattage available in both medium and mogul base. Anything higher is only mogul base (125W MV isn't found in the USA, though its used in Canada and I think those are almost always medium base? Unsure...) and anything lower (40/50, 75W) is medium base only. Those medium base MVs have always been elusive though. Nothing smaller than 100W MV was ever used for street lighting in the US, at least not outside one or two small municipal-owned installations perhaps.

In Rhode ISland, went right from 1000L incandescent street lights to 4000L 100W MV street lights here (and some waited until the 90s and went to 4000L 50W HPS. Seems like in the US, mercury vapor street lights weren't about saving any energy, it was only about increasing brightness without increasing energy consumption. Back in the 60s electricity costs were dirt cheap so nobody cared. With LEDs, it seems we are seeing a return to more historical light levels. Around here I'm seeing 20W LEDs (2000L) replacing 50W HPS, which replaced 100W MV, which had originally replaced 105W (1000L) incandescent street lights, so even though the 2000L LEDs are way dimmer than the HID they're replacing the light levels are still greater than they were in the days of incandescent. Yet on the other hand, the US has gotten a lot more populated (and the roadways many times more so) since the 50s and those historic light levels might not be suitable for the traffic flow on the same road today. Not to mention it's also easier to adjust to higher light levels. It's harder to adjust to lower light levels when cities decide to take drastic energy-saving measures.

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Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
There are some 70w cobra streetlights in use in small neighbourhoods here. How about MH ? Whats the lowest that has mogul and the highest for medium base where you are ? There are MH lamps in 175w that are medium base both in probe and pulse start 175 as well as 200w medium base ones according to the supplier i get some of my goods from.
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Jul 20, 2018 at 10:20 PM Author: joseph_125
125w mogul based mercs do exist (I found one at Restore) but are super rare, even some 125w mercury fixtures with factory mogul bases just use medium based lamps and a reducer. Anyway 100w, 125w, and 175w MV were the common wattages here for residential streets, the 175w lamps were used with cobras and the 100 and 125w with either remote ballasted mini gumballs or these McGraw Edison lights. 125w mercury lamps were also used for freeway sign lighting back when the MTO still lit up their overhead signs. Interestingly the freeway sign light fixtures were mogul based and they used medium based lamps with reducer in them. I guess mogul based 125w lamps were too hard to find lol.

When they replaced MV with HPS in residential neighbourhoods, 70w and 100w were the most common wattages. 70W HPS replaced streets that used to have 100 and 125W MV. 100w HPS replaced 175W MV.

The lowest PSMH I've seen with a mogul base is 70w but 100w and lower PSMH lamps are hard to find with a mogul base.
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Jul 20, 2018 at 10:27 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
I just checked and there is indeed 70w PSMH offered but its expensive at $41, plus I already have a medium base one and need 12 more of those (I like to have full cases of lamps ) and they only charge $15 per bulb or $13 each for 12 or more for the symban medium base lamps
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Jul 20, 2018 at 11:32 PM Author: Lumex120

There are some 70w cobra streetlights in use in small neighbourhoods here. How about MH ? Whats the lowest that has mogul and the highest for medium base where you are ? There are MH lamps in 175w that are medium base both in probe and pulse start 175 as well as 200w medium base ones according to the supplier i get some of my goods from.

Lowest wattage made in mogul base is 50w, highest wattage medium base (ED17) is 200w, but Plusrite makes an ED37 450w PSMH lamp with a medium base.

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Jul 21, 2018 at 08:34 AM Author: streetlight98
For MH/PSMH, typically anything under 175W is only medium base. Mogul variants do exist but are very hard to find and not made by all manufacturers.

Please check out my newly-updated website! McCann Lighting Company is where my street light collection is displayed in detail.

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