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TRADE !! Westinghouse OV-50 With Fins and Glareshield

TRADE !! Westinghouse OV-50 With Fins and Glareshield

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I just did some horse trading and look what's in my garage !

SORRY for the upside down photo! I wanted to show what it looks like right side up !

anyone know how to determine date of manufacture (roughly) ?

THANKS Shaun !!!!

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Manufacturer:Westinghouse
Model Reference:OV-50
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Lamp Type:WAS 700w Mercury Vapor
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Fabrication Date:???????
Application/Use:streetlighting/ parking lot lighting

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Jul 26, 2019 at 09:31 PM Author: Columbo
How come you own a police cruiser?

Streetlights are most often overlooked by society as we go about in life. I have had an interest and fascination for them since I was very little. I love drawing detailed city-scapes and the streetlights are my signature. They always play an important role in my drawings. Like Bob Ross' clouds.

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Jul 26, 2019 at 09:39 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
Actually I have 3 of them ! (the light bar is just sitting there, can't drive it that way !)

Cars are another of my collections !

IT'S A SICKNESS !

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Jul 26, 2019 at 09:51 PM Author: Columbo

Actually I have 3 of them ! (the light bar is just sitting there, can't drive it that way !)

Cars are another of my collections !

IT'S A SICKNESS !


Are they RCMP? That one looks like the ones they use in my town.

Streetlights are most often overlooked by society as we go about in life. I have had an interest and fascination for them since I was very little. I love drawing detailed city-scapes and the streetlights are my signature. They always play an important role in my drawings. Like Bob Ross' clouds.

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Jul 26, 2019 at 10:00 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
One is a 1991 Ford Crown Vic, ex West Virginia State Police
One is a 2003 Ford Crown Vic, ex Franklin Township police, Ohio (local)
And this is a 1988 Ford Crown Vic, not sure exactly where it came from . It had a car lot sticker from a used car lot in southern Ohio on it when I got it. I've had this for almost 25 yrs now !

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Jul 26, 2019 at 10:12 PM Author: Columbo

One is a 1991 Ford Crown Vic, ex West Virginia State Police
One is a 2003 Ford Crown Vic, ex Franklin Township police, Ohio (local)
And this is a 1988 Ford Crown Vic, not sure exactly where it came from . It had a car lot sticker from a used car lot in southern Ohio on it when I got it. I've had this for almost 25 yrs now !


My municipality still had a '91 Crown Vic in service up to 3 years ago!

Streetlights are most often overlooked by society as we go about in life. I have had an interest and fascination for them since I was very little. I love drawing detailed city-scapes and the streetlights are my signature. They always play an important role in my drawings. Like Bob Ross' clouds.

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Jul 26, 2019 at 10:13 PM Author: Memorex_Telex
I’m glad you appreciate it. This is probably one of the coolest, most bad ass mercury vapor streetlights I found. It was just too big for my hoard of 400W-X1 street light collection. It would be really neat to install this in your yard; it’s just too neat & unique looking. Really fun & different streetlight that absolutely could not have ended up in the scrap yard.
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Jul 26, 2019 at 10:15 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
Well, I think ANY vintage MV/Incandescent light shouldn't go to a scrapyard.


Nice gift!

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Jul 26, 2019 at 10:15 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
@ Colombo : the 91's are kinda rare as they weren't made for the whole year, Ford released the 92's really early (April '91 I think, instead of September '91 like normal)

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Jul 26, 2019 at 10:33 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
@ Memorex_Telex : I've actually been considering installing this in place of the M-400 and put the M-400 else where !

@fluorescent lover 40 : My local scrapyard has a list of Items that have sub-standard pricing (burnt wire, burnt box springs, anything with fabric attached and others). Thankfully, streetlights are on that list ! When the average "Joe" comes in with them, it's almost a guarantee that their stolen ,hence the lower price !

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Jul 27, 2019 at 06:51 AM Author: HomeBrewLamps
Nice light

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Jul 27, 2019 at 10:18 AM Author: streetlight98
Nice! This would be from the 1960s sometime. Awesome it's got a glare shield, those are rare. I'd LOVE to find a glareshield for a small-sized light like an OV-15, M-250, etc.

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Jul 27, 2019 at 10:40 AM Author: Fluorescent05
What ballast does this currently have?

Don't be fooLED, T8 IS the worst thing to do to a magnetic T12 fixture.

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Jul 27, 2019 at 01:37 PM Author: Memorex_Telex

What ballast does this currently have?


>The original owners removed the 700W mercury vapor choke coil/ separate auto-transformer ballast & installed all sorts of different types of HPS & metal halide ballasts into these beautiful luminaires. I suspect the majority of ignorant “electricians” didn’t repair the old capacitors in the fins to get the luminaires operating efficiently and/or they couldn’t source the 700W mercury bulbs very easily as the years progressed.
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Jul 27, 2019 at 03:57 PM Author: streetlight98
You cant really blame the electrician for not searching the earth for the correct replacement capacitor. Most of the guys I work with don't know anything about capacitors anyway. If it doesn't work with a new lamp, it gets a new ballast kit. It's just easier that way. Of course, me being a lighting collector I don't condone that behavior but it is what it is. I'd rather replace the entire light and add it to my collection.

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Jul 27, 2019 at 04:38 PM Author: Memorex_Telex
>True! When I worked for a municipal that maintained 70,000 street lights; they would constantly make fun of me for repairing certain luminaires to get them working properly. We had some areas with AEL 327, OV-50, OV-25, & M-400; & I would usually repair them & try & keep them up & running. I loved that job a lot, but the pay & benefits were garbage.

These OV-50s came from a mall though, & I would think out of principal & economy it would be cheaper to fix the capacitor rather than replace the whole entire ballast. I guess that’s just my viewpoint & you are right; most people don’t have the knowledge or time/ effort to put into streetlighting maintainance. It is funny though that the new LED crap that is supposed to be so modern & better wouldn’t come close to lasting as long as the old, reliable mercury vapor technology.



You cant really blame the electrician for not searching the earth for the correct replacement capacitor. Most of the guys I work with don't know anything about capacitors anyway. If it doesn't work with a new lamp, it gets a new ballast kit. It's just easier that way. Of course, me being a lighting collector I don't condone that behavior but it is what it is. I'd rather replace the entire light and add it to my collection.
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Jul 27, 2019 at 06:22 PM Author: streetlight98
Personally, if I owned a building with cobraheads in the parking lot, I would keep a pair of spare fixtures, and when servicing came around and there were lights that didn't work with new lamps, the spares would replace them, and the lights would be worked on at my convenience at a work bench. I've tried to fix lights while they're installed and it's a pain in the rear. Rusted screws/bolts, wasps and bird nests. The lights really aren't designed with maintenance in mind. But in a work bench scenario it's a lot easier. When those faulty lights are fixed in the shop, they'd be set aside for the next relamping and cycled back into service when needed. And that way all the fixtures would match too, rather than mis-matched heads.

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Jul 28, 2019 at 02:43 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
@ HomeBrewLamps : Thanks!
@ streelight98 : Thanks ! this has the old style Westy logo (no dots on the "W"). Around here, if a bulb/ P.C. doesn't fix it it gets a new fixture anyway. They don't repair ANYTHING here !
And I agree with your idea for parking lot cobras, Nothing I hate more than mismatched fixtures ! Years ago in CT., I saw a crew changing ballasts in cobras in a parking lot a
their method was to remove the door,loosen the mounting bolts, then rotate the housing upside down, change the ballast, then rotate back and re-install the door!
@Fluorescent05: this will probably end up with a 1000w H-36 multi volt instead .
@ Memorex_Telex: When you look at it from a municipality's viewpoint, it makes sense to just replace. You figure they buy lights and bulbs in bulk and for what they pay for the light/bulb it
it's probably cheaper in the long run when you figure in part cost,the labor to install it,your pay/insurance,the truck insurance/fuel/cost. Then what if a week later
something else fails then it's back to square one ! I deal with that everyday fixing ambulances, most places will say " just replace it" even if we tell them we can probably
fix it !

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Jul 28, 2019 at 03:20 PM Author: streetlight98
The older plain looking (W) logo was retired by Westinghouse around 1960, but it was still used on their glassware and castings into the early 60s. Safe to say this is an early 60s model. I'm not sure if the OV-50 existed in the late 50s alongside the OV-25 but could be extremely late 50s. Safe to say this is one of the first OV-50s.

Ahh that's a really clever way of doing it, turning the light upside down. When I install my street lights on the arms in my backyard I usually slide them on the arm sideways with the door removed, then turn it into operating position, bolt it down, and make the connections. Then install the lamp and door and fire it up! I install the PC before I put the light up though, so I don't have to stand on the very top of the ladder or feel around for the PC socket. And of course so I don't forget! lol. If I were doing it live like on a utility pole I would install the PC last though, so there's no load when I'm making my connections.

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Jul 28, 2019 at 07:59 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
I've heard the change date was around there somewhere. I just cleaned this today and will hopefully soon be posting photos of both styles together to show the MANY differences between the 2 .

And for whatever it's worth, When Shaun (Memorex_Telex) was here last week we were looking at this, my other OV-50 and my OV-25 and he said that the 0V-50 and the OV-25 were probably the same upper housing, well, I compared them today and he was right, other than interior components, the upper portion SEEMS TO BE INTERCHANGEABLE ! I know there was some discussion of this with the M-400 vs M-1000 both here and on GoL And since I have both I tested it and can say that those uppers are ALSO interchangeable !

BTW, I could only imagine what it would be like to try to install a 700 or 1000w ballast in a cobra with it in the "normal" position, it's hard enough to line up the holes with the light on the ground let alone in the air, upside down on a swaying pole !

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You cant really blame the electrician for not searching the earth for the correct replacement capacitor. Most of the guys I work with don't know anything about capacitors anyway. If it doesn't work with a new lamp, it gets a new ballast kit. It's just easier that way. Of course, me being a lighting collector I don't condone that behavior but it is what it is. I'd rather replace the entire light and add it to my collection.

If you get ten 400W ballasts from different manufacturers that were produced different years, many times they use different MFD rated capacitors. Sometimes the voltage spread is different as well. I spent a week once trying to find the correct capacitor for a ballast and never could find the exact replacement. Sometimes on an older ballast, a new capacitor would burn the ballast out shortly after it was installed. Many companies would rather get the system changed out 100% and not have to come back later and change another component. It costs them money.
I have found some older fixtures on ebay and found they had weak/bad capacitors. I looked on ebay for weeks and never found one to the exact specifications as the older one. I called the supply house and they could order one but after shipping and product cost, it was cheaper to replace the entire ballast or the fixture when it came to a really old luminaire. Rusted bolts, corroded parts, broken off screw heads, rusty reflector, rotten gaskets, cracked glass, loose P/E recepticle, faded paint, all play into it.
Electricians who do work for customers must do what the customer wants(within code and safety regs)or they will be sent down the road. I had to replace many 1K older 60-70's cobras for WM because they were dim, the refractors were nasty, and the paint was faded. I replaced them with new 1K fixture (A/E) and had to dispose of the classics that I took down because I had no room in the trucks to keep them and WM did not want the immense fixtures in their way in the warehouse.
Unfortunately costs of a project dictate the route you must take.
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Jul 28, 2019 at 09:19 PM Author: Lumex120
Wooow! What a beauty. If I had something like this I would convert it to run 1000w PSMH lamps but also add an ignitor switch for running mercury lamps.

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Jul 29, 2019 at 03:10 AM Author: Memorex_Telex
Westinghouse OV-50 has stainless steel bolts, beautiful anodized aluminum finish, 1/2 thick glass refractor, & an easy to access ballast tray. This thing showed virtually no sign of aging & never really had any issues of needing to be replaced aside from worn out capacitors. This thing is 50X better constructed than the new garbage being installed these days. I am curious what this thing cost in 1960 adjusted for inflation is.
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Jul 29, 2019 at 09:03 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
@ GE101R : My point exactly ! As for the capacitors, as long as the MFD's are the same and the voltage is the same or higher your fine. The cap I changed in my other OV-50 WAS A 2.5 uf-490vac,
the new one was a 2.5 uf -600vac , no problems !

@ Lumex120: Thanks! the new ballast should be here tomorrow, an Advance 1000w H-36 multi-tap.

@ Memorex_Telex: i saw an old 1977 GE streetlight catalog w/prices and a 700w M-1000 was $200.00

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@ Memorex_Telex : I've actually been considering installing this in place of the M-400 and put the M-400 else where !

May I suggest you install this on a 2" GRC riser instead of EMT? Wouldn't want to see it fall due to the EMT failing under the weight.

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May I suggest you install this on a 2" GRC riser instead of EMT? Wouldn't want to see it fall due to the EMT failing under the weight.


This is NOT going on the EMT pole ! I haven't fully decided what I'm going to use yet, but it will revolve around one of the 6' mast arms I have.

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Jul 31, 2019 at 04:06 AM Author: Memorex_Telex
I can get you a wooden power pole if you don’t need something super long. Maybe 20-25 feet.
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Aug 01, 2019 at 07:05 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
I'm actually thinking of using the lower half of my Revere folding pole . Being steel it's plenty strong enough and already has a hole at the top for bolting the mast arm to .

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Aug 20, 2019 at 08:55 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
To the member who sent me the E-mail regarding the Police cruisers please E-mail me again as I accidentally deleted it before I could respond ! Thanks ! (I'm an Idiot!)

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