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Looks almost like a Form 109 to me

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Yep that LED yard light looks Form 109ish...

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Aug 16, 2016 at 01:30 PM Author: wattMaster
Now they just need a HID version of this for yard lighting.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 04:01 PM Author:
lots of people have put these (and similar) up in our area and theyre great at lighting the area directly under it but they put minimal light in the area beond 25-30 ft to each side of the lamp. for what they cost they should light better than that. i suppose its probably some sort of mandate that says they cant light outward beyond a certain point to satisfy the dark sky crowd
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Aug 16, 2016 at 07:26 PM Author: streetlight98
Saying this looks like a Form 109 is an extreme insult to a classic fixture. This POS most certainly does NOT look like a Form 109.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 07:30 PM Author: wattMaster
What does a Form 109 even look like?

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Aug 16, 2016 at 07:31 PM Author: Solanaceae
Funny, one of these things replaced a form 109 or similar clam in a nearby hood. The pole still has the ballast on top and all. Hope they had a good reason to do it, like a dead ballast.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 07:36 PM Author: streetlight98
Form 109:

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Aug 16, 2016 at 07:38 PM Author: wattMaster
It looks like a spherical, low profile Form 109.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 07:53 PM Author: streetlight98
Nah.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:12 PM Author: FGS
Copyright issues if they ever copied the shape exactly. Unless it happened to be GE that did make them.

Why I like LEDs on top of other lighting tech?
LEDs = Upgrade 95% of the applications. (That is if you avoid eBay's LEDs).


LED brainwash? No, people uses them cuz they work well for them.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:12 PM Author: wattMaster
And the lens looks nothing like a real Form 109.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:43 PM Author:
love how it also says that its "comparable to 175-250w PSMH" yeah right! i bet the 100w MH light i have that has a supposed output of 9,000 lumens would beat this thing 2x over. theres a reason they dont say how many lumens it puts out. i'd be very surprised if its even 5,000 lumens
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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:44 PM Author: streetlight98
This metal turd doesn't even resemble a classic Form 109 in the slightest way.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:48 PM Author: streetlight98
BTW I think this think is like 6650 lumens or something. About as bright as a 70W PSMH, and guess how many watts this LED fixture uses?

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:52 PM Author: wattMaster
It doesn't tell you?

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:52 PM Author: Lumex120
Looks like some sort of clamshell at least...

I am not surprised they claim it is equal to high wattage PSMH. I have seen 2000 lumen LED wallpacks rated to replace 34000 lumen 320w PSMH lamps. Yea right. Maybe a lamp that is dimmed out and just turned on but the real thing is over 10x as bright.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:54 PM Author: wattMaster
I still can't get over that, just 2000 Lumens!

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Aug 16, 2016 at 08:56 PM Author: streetlight98
It's right on the box. 70W, same as 70W PSMH and only a little brighter than the 70W PSMH. I suppose this could be a replacement for a well-used 100W PSMH fixture since MH lamps loose a lot of lumens as they age but that's being generous.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 09:09 PM Author: wattMaster
I didn't see the wattage on it.
You may as well use a HPS light if you're looking for high efficiency.

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Aug 16, 2016 at 09:21 PM Author: don93s
How much will these dim? I haven't kept up on LED but I understand it continues to improve (one would hope). As lighting, they're boring for me; but if reliable enough and not a headache bomb, I would use one if need be.

Funny thing...one the most recent NEMA 175w mercury I got from craigslist, the seller had replaced it with LED and as he gave me the fixture and spare stuff, he muttered about liking the light from the mercury better than the glare bomb behind him as we stood in the driveway after dark, lol.
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Aug 16, 2016 at 10:15 PM Author: Solanaceae
Led is terrible on me. I like the color of the 3500 and warmer ones, but still the glare kills me, and screws with my astigmatism. even MH is less glary than these! I also saw some gross flyswatters being put up in the city, the stupid gentrification has begun! They're like real flyswatters. Use them a few times, and they're already falling apart!

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Aug 17, 2016 at 12:22 AM Author: Kev
@streetlight98 Philips now make a 70W SON @ 7300 Lm

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Aug 17, 2016 at 12:26 AM Author: Silverliner
Light above looks more like a small GEC clamshell used in England than a Form 109.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 12:46 AM Author: Ash
How about 7900 Lm 70W

http://www.osram.com/osram_com/products/lamps/high-intensity-discharge-lamps/metal-halide-lamps-with-ceramic-technology/powerball-hci-et-super-4y/index.jsp

Most Quartz PSMH lamps are dimmer, at about 5000 Lm 70W. But 150W Quartz PSMH lamp gets 12500Lm, double this LED light 6545Lm. Never heard of 175W PSMH lamp
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Aug 17, 2016 at 06:32 AM Author: FGS
http://www.simkarcorporation.com/dusk-to-dawn/Simkar%20DTDLED%20Brochure.pdf

The brochure for these LEDs.

Why I like LEDs on top of other lighting tech?
LEDs = Upgrade 95% of the applications. (That is if you avoid eBay's LEDs).


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Aug 17, 2016 at 06:52 AM Author: dor123
Is it help that the lantern not viewed also from beneath, so that the optical system and the LEDs can be seen?

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Where were you?

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Aug 17, 2016 at 08:05 AM Author: streetlight98
@ Kev: that's about equivalent to 175W MV!

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Aug 17, 2016 at 08:37 AM Author: Lumex120
I thought my 6500 lumen 70w CMH was bright.
The SON won't be a good replacement for 175w merc because of horrible nighttime visibility, but the CMH would be perfect.
I still don't understand why LEDs have taken off like this when CMH is TONS more efficient, more reliable, cheaper, and in some cases have a very long rated life.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 08:39 AM Author: wattMaster
And the bulbs are easily replaceable!

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Aug 17, 2016 at 08:45 AM Author: Lumex120
That too. Plus if they dayburn on a very hot day a magnetic ballast isn't going to fail like an electronic LED driver. Plus, if the ballast does fail for whatever reason, it can be replaced for about $25.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 08:49 AM Author: wattMaster
I wonder how an electronic ballast would do.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 08:57 AM Author: streetlight98
Electronic HIDs have existed since the 90s (most LOA HID fixtures used electronic ballasts) but they've proven to be very unreliable, especially for street lighting. electronic HID ballasts have been pretty much limited to indoor uses like track lighting where compact size and no noise are requirements. And AFAIK they were only really used for lower wattage HIDs. Not sure if they make higher wattage electronic ballasts. They never took off (thank god) but I'm pretty sure those Cooper OVGs in New York City have electronic ballasts in them.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 08:58 AM Author: wattMaster
What defines higher wattage?
If 1000 Watts is higher wattage, there are lots of electronic ballasts available for those.
I even have 2 400 Watt electronic ballasts.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:04 AM Author: FGS
$25 for a PSMH ballast? Sounds too good to be true. Is it quality ballast?

Why I like LEDs on top of other lighting tech?
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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:12 AM Author: Lumex120
Well, they say Plusrite stuff is good so probably. Here is the link:
https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/89420/PLUSRITE-7202.html

There are these canopy lights under near the doors at my church. Long ago there was a tornado (2005) and the roof got torn up and water leaked in. It got into the canopy lights and killed the ballasts. They sat dead for almost 10 years until they decided to do something about them. Apparently the company that could fix them would charge 200 bucks per light to fix them but they couldn't afford that. So I showed them the inexpensive Plusrite ballasts and they decided to try them. They were installed in 2014 and are still working well.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:14 AM Author: wattMaster
Cheap doesn't always mean bad!

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:16 AM Author: Lumex120
That's true too. I have a Plusrite 70w mogul base PSMH lamp and the quality is quite good. It doesn't even rattle when you screw it in.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:18 AM Author: wattMaster
My relatively cheap Nanolux ballast seems to be of good quality. But how to you clean it when the fan eventually gets filled with dust?

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:24 AM Author: Lumex120
Can it be disassembled? If not just stick an air compressor to it and let fly. I use that for cleaning out laptop and desktop computer fans.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:25 AM Author: wattMaster
It can technically be disassembled, but it says that there are large capacitors in it, so it would be unsafe to.
I suppose I can use the compressed air, but it would be tricky.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:32 AM Author: FGS
Be sure to jam the fan before you let it fly. Compressed air make those things spin to ungodly fast RPM. Well beyond what they're rated for. I've heard they can EXPLODE if spun that fast. Could be Internet BS but to be safe than sorry. Jam that fan. A screw between the blades is usually enough. Just don't let the thing fall inside the case.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:36 AM Author: wattMaster
Maybe a pen could do it too? Now I want to test my spare computer fans with compressed air.
Update: I tested one of them, and it didn't spin very fast. I still wouldn't risk my ballast fan.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:45 AM Author: Lumex120
The fans I clean are usually Intel CPU coolers, 80mm and 120mm fans. I usually stick something in it to keep them from exploding too.

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Aug 17, 2016 at 09:56 AM Author: Kev
@streetlight98 http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/prof/lamps/high-intensity-discharge-lamps/son-high-pressure-sodium/master-son-t-apia-plus-xtra/928150119227_EU/product

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