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Casablanca Zephyr Inteli-Touch ceiling fan

Casablanca Zephyr Inteli-Touch ceiling fan

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Kinda lighting related...I installed this in my room today to replace a 36" Hunter Original. This fan is from the early to mid 80s and has the "Inteli-Touch" electronic control system which uses a proprietary wall switch. Lamps are Bright Effects (Feit rebranded for Lowe's) 60W soft white incandescent that I got for 99 cents per 4-pack several years ago. I don't have 60W clear lamps, otherwise I would've used those.

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Manufacturer:Casablanca Fan Co.
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Lamp Type:Incandescent
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Fixture Type:Ceiling fan
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Voltage:120
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Color Rendering Index:100
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Factory Location:Pasadena, California, USA
Fabrication Date:Early-mid 80s
Application/Use:Lighting and air movement

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Looks cool! And the lamps have proper cooling.

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Mar 05, 2016 at 05:15 PM Author: icefoglights
Cool fan!

Somewhere I have a Casablanca "Play It Again Sam: wall switch. Several years ago, I rented, and did electrical work in an old house that at one time had a Casablanca fan in it. It had been replaced with a newer fan, but the switch was still on the wall, though not connected. The fan in the front room was wired to always hot power, and controlled with the a pull chain. The chain was very long, as the house had 12 foot ceilings. In my work, I connected a wall control.

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Mar 05, 2016 at 06:25 PM Author: Solanaceae
There are two initellitech Casablanca fans in my sunroom. That part was built in 96'.

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Needs some clear lamps for sure!
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What happened to the original?

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Dec 20, 2016 at 08:13 PM Author: nicksfans
Got moved to my brother's room.

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Apr 18, 2017 at 05:01 PM Author: streetlight98
Nick, how often to the capacitors in ceiling fans go bad? My brother and I have identical ceiling fans in our bedrooms and mine gets a lot more use than his. I've noticed mine is a LOT slower than his (mine on HI is like his on LO) and mine goes about the same speed on low, medium, or high (but the speed does change slightly, so it's not the switch). I don't know the brand of fan but I'd imagine it's a cheepy from Home Depot back in the day. They're original to the house from 2003. I removed the lighting assembly and found the capacitor tucked up in there where the pullchains are. It's a black cube about the size of a 9V battery and is 4.5uf, 250V. I got a replacement on eBay for $7 that I'm going to try out. If it doesn't work we'll probably just get a new fan. But for $7 it seems like a no brainer to try and see if it does the trick.

Wanted to know what a "fan of fans" (sorry for the pun ) thought though. From what I found online, it seems like the capacitor is commonly what slows the fan down over time if the blades spin freely when the power is off (aka bearings are fine). The fan runs fairly quietly. You can hear the motor humming but it's no louder than my brother's fan, which works as well as when they were new. Not much use on his fan. The capacitor didn't show any signs of failure (not bulged, no melted spots, no leaks, no discoloration, etc.) but it looks like a crappy cheap Chinese cap so it wouldn't surprise me if it were dead. Also out of interest is that his fan starts much faster too. When you turn his fan on, it ramps up to speed rather quickly while mine takes a good 20 seconds to get up to full speed. His is spinning at top speed within half that time frame.

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Apr 18, 2017 at 07:22 PM Author: nicksfans
That does sound like a failed capacitor. I've encountered a few.

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Apr 18, 2017 at 08:22 PM Author: streetlight98
Ah good to know. Thanks! Can't wait to get the full power of the fan back, especially in time for the warmer weather on the way here!

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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:01 PM Author: ace100w120v
I've seen fans before that were just barely even turning and wondered why, could tell it was a malfunction, now I guess I know!
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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:08 PM Author: nicksfans
Unusually low speeds can also be caused by stiff bearings, and some fans have an intentional "aesthetic" low speed setting so the fan just barely spins. I've also seen fans that wouldn't start on their own but would run in either direction if pushed that way. That's typically a symptom of either a bad cap, a bad reverse switch, or a bad motor winding. In fact, we had the same issue with a furnace blower at my house, and thanks to my experience working with fans, I was able to trace it to the cap and save a lot of repair cost.

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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:09 PM Author: streetlight98
Yeah I've seen that too, especially in older "greasy spoon" mom-&-pop restaurants. I had just figured some brands spun REALLY slow on the low setting or the fans were on a dimmer switch. My grandparents have their two living room fans on a dimmer with this kind of switch:

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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:12 PM Author: nicksfans
Dimmers are, in fact, bad for motors in general. They do make variable speed controls for fans, though, which might be what your grandparents have.

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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:12 PM Author: ace100w120v
I know of a Margie's which still looks totally 1950s, popcorn ceiling with "A&W Style" recessed drop dish incandescents, chrome, neon, and way-too-slow malfunctioning fans.
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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:16 PM Author: ace100w120v
When we moved into our house there was a pair of blower fans heating an unfinished room on the other side of my (also unfinished back then) bedroom, Romex tapped from an outlet box to a loose-hanging blue Carlon box with a TRIAC dimmer, controlling the fans.
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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:18 PM Author: nicksfans
Mike, a switch like that should be fine for controlling the fans as long as the current rating isn't exceeded.

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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:23 PM Author: streetlight98
I edited my comment with a pic of what they have. The "fan" side slides smoothly like the lamp side and does effectively "dim" the fan and it sounds different. But since there's separate sides and it's made by Lutron I'd imagine it's safe for the fans. It's been that way since the 90s and the fans still work fine, though my grandma said one of her fans is making a clanking noise. Not sure if it's one of the dimmable living room ones or another one since they've got a fan in every room of the house except the bathroom (well they've got one in there too, but it's an exhaust fan).

I wonder what would cause a clanking/banging noise? I'd imagine something is loose or off-balance. I believe it was either her bedroom fan (which is like 30+ years old) or one of the living room fans, which are from the 90s and look like brown-red clay flower pots).

Her bedroom fan looks like this but with older looking blades:

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Yeah I've seen that too, especially in older "greasy spoon" mom-&-pop restaurants. I had just figured some brands spun REALLY slow on the low setting or the fans were on a dimmer switch. My grandparents have their two living room fans on a dimmer. Though I've heard they're not supposed to be on a dimmer.


Not the most recommend idea, even if it works for now, you can get nice fan speed controllers from Canarm, they are not like most controllers with three or four set speeds they are completely variable, and they do large units that will control 10 fans at the same times as well...
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A clanking noise could be a really bad bearing or something making noise due to the fan being off-balance.

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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:27 PM Author: streetlight98
Their switch is Lutron and is completely variable. It's got separate "fan" and "light" sides so it should be fan-safe.

@ Nick: Ah OK Thanks. Is it something I could probably fix for them or are they better off just getting a new fan?

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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:32 PM Author: Lodge
I've also seen the safety cable push down into the motor area and just bang away at the side, but it never made any noise when I dropped the fan, it was pretty frustrating to troubleshoot, but once I got it figured the fix was a simple knot in the cable to stop it falling in the housing..
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Apr 18, 2017 at 09:36 PM Author: nicksfans
Ceiling fans in the U.S. don't have safety cables unlike the ones in Canada. And Mike, it may be fixable. If the fan is visibly wobbling when it's making the noise, then fixing the wobble will almost certainly fix the noise. You might be able to balance the fan by putting a weight on one of the blades, but it could also be due to a bent blade arm. They can be straightened out but I've accidentally broken a couple trying.

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Every fan I've had to stick up has had one, even the real cheap home depot specials under $20, it must be fun to install a fan without them because I mainly use them to let the fan just hang there while I wire it up...
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I think every fan I've encountered has had a way to let it hang from the mounting bracket while you connect the wires.

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