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EOL In less than 10 minutes !

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This 500w halogen lamp came with a brand new fixture obtained from our wonderful material supplier Wurth !

I got 2 of these fixtures from them and both lamps were goners within a hour! The other lamp failed at the point where filament lead attaches to the ceramic . HIGH QUALITY !!

These are "WURTHLESS" !

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Jun 16, 2019 at 06:37 AM Author: sol
A ballast and a double ended MH lamp would be a remedy for this failure...
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Jun 16, 2019 at 04:07 PM Author: rjluna2
Looks like it was contaminated from inside

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Jun 16, 2019 at 04:20 PM Author: AngryHorse
Either that or it’s one of those ‘back street’ Chinese ones, where they copy the lamp, but don’t have the machinery or materials to halogenise it??

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Jun 16, 2019 at 04:39 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
This particular one started dimming and blackening the second it was turned on so I'd say that rjuna2 and AngryHorse were BOTH probably right !

@ sol : I agree ! personally, I HATE THESE LAMPS AND FIXTURES ! I know there are a lot of people who like them , I am not one of them !

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Jun 16, 2019 at 04:39 PM Author: Daniel f
Before being a collector. This happened to me with halogen lights in my work. They lasted a few hours and did not shake them or move. change to gls. Now I have osram or philips gls bulbs and they last much longer. For me the change was more comfortable.
 
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Jun 23, 2019 at 03:00 AM Author: TL buis
230V used instead of 120V??
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Jun 23, 2019 at 03:22 AM Author: Globe Collector
This has not been dosed with halogen...it is just a standard filament in a fused silica tube...no halogen cycle to transport the evaporated tungsten back to the filament. Whoever made this had no idea what they were doing...but I saw loads of that in Viet Nam....they just DID, but had no idea why or how. Like those guys in Go-Vap where were "copying" fan speed controllers, (glorified light dimmers)....they knew so little about electronics that they thought ALL TO-220 devices were the same...the original had a TRIAC in it, their copies had Three Terminal Regulators, Ordinary Transistors, MOSFETS, Shottky Diode pars or whatever TO-220 device they could get their paws upon....they HAD NO IDEA AT ALL....but was was really frustrating, I had no way of telling them that all their efforts were UTTERLY wasted.......they'd do better picking up turds for use as fertilizer!

And that was just the power pass device.....the circuit also had a pot, diac, snubber, phase-shift network......ARGHHHHHH!!! Tufts of hair flying everywhere!!

Manufactured articles should be made to be used, not made to be sold!

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Jun 23, 2019 at 03:35 AM Author: dor123
Never seen halogen lamp without halogen component.

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230-240V, 50hz country.

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Jun 23, 2019 at 03:51 AM Author: Globe Collector
Remember dor, there are always possibilities you did not think of. Just because you have not seen or experienced it does not mean it does not exist, never did or never will.

I once thought that it was IMPOSSIBLE that a small country like Belgium could contain TWO lamp plants, Philips and Sylvania, what a goose I was....not only did it have these two plants in Turnhout and Tienen, but there were HUNDREDS of other lamp plants all over the country......so I stand corrected....and maybe you should think about it too for a bit...

Manufactured articles should be made to be used, not made to be sold!

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Jun 23, 2019 at 08:50 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
@ TL buis : No, definitely 120v as these fixtures have "normal" power cords and plugs on them. This particular lamp started filling with smoke and dimming as soon as it was plugged in ! I tend to agree with Globe Collector that this particular lamp just wasn't manufactured correctly. As for the other one, it failed where the lead wire attaches to the ceramic contact assembly, probably a poor connection job !

This isn't the first lamp I've seen that was made wrong from the factory and probably won't be the last !

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Jun 24, 2019 at 05:28 AM Author: Globe Collector
Untold millions of these would be leaving Chinese territory daily. The Chinese' attitude is....if you buy junk, we will make junk to sell to you...so really is is whoever buys them for whatever chain is selling them that really has to hold the can of blame.

Manufactured articles should be made to be used, not made to be sold!

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Jun 24, 2019 at 05:47 AM Author: AngryHorse
Nail on head Andrew! us westerners are stupid, they see things like this on untold Chinese websites for about 50 pence each, then buy them in bulk thinking their getting a good deal, how many people buy dodgy, unsafe LED floods daily, just because the ‘same’ one is £10 dearer in reputable hardware stores!

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Jun 24, 2019 at 06:11 AM Author: rjluna2
Amen to that, Andrew. Those Chinese know what they are doing as the fool soon departed with his/her money

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Aug 08, 2019 at 11:01 PM Author: Willpower2
were they brand new?
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Aug 09, 2019 at 10:56 AM Author: wide-lite 1000

were they brand new?


Yep !

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Nov 08, 2019 at 11:59 AM Author: sox35

Nail on head Andrew! us westerners are stupid, they see things like this on untold Chinese websites for about 50 pence each, then buy them in bulk thinking their getting a good deal, how many people buy dodgy, unsafe LED floods daily, just because the ‘same’ one is £10 dearer in reputable hardware stores!

I try wherever possible to avoid buying stuff that is Chinese made. Not just because of the often poor quality, but their human and animal rights record is appalling as well, and that means something to me.

The trouble is it's unavoidable these days, every other thing you buy has "Made in China" on it, and even when you select (say) the UK as a region on eBay, the listings are flooded with items that are being sold by Chinese sellers. They claim that the stock is in the UK so that's ok, but I disagree. If I select the UK it's because I want to support UK sellers, not send my money overseas. Grrrr..!!

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Nov 08, 2019 at 02:02 PM Author: CEB1993
Wow, never seen one of these T3's do this! Yes, this clearly did not have proper halogen gases inserted or there was moisture inside the tube. All of the tungsten burnt up and immediately blackened the tube, causing the dimming and final burn out you witnessed. I've had one of these "no name" brand Chinese T3's break in my hand just from the tension of inserting it into a fixture. Really poor quality!

I'm glad I stocked up on GE's Hungarian versions and Philips' French versions of these halogens. There's still a decent amount of name brand not-made-in-China T3 halogens on Ebay.

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Nov 08, 2019 at 07:54 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
I see here a lot "made in America*" , when you search the package for the asterisk in tiny print * "with global parts" . I'm sorry, but made in America and assembled in America are 2 totally different things !

I did discover after trying lamps from many different manufacturers including "the big three" (GE, Philips and Sylvania) I finally found T-3 halogens that actually seem to last ! They're still made in China though . They are the Feit Electric 130v version. I currently have 4 running at work that have been flawless for almost 2 months now running approx. 8 hrs a day / 5 days a week . I was lucky to get 3 weeks from the others before they would either melt the lead wire between the ceramic base and the filament, totally obliterate the ceramic base and lamp holder or just go POOF! in a bright flash !

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Nov 08, 2019 at 08:24 PM Author: GE101R

Nail on head Andrew! us westerners are stupid, they see things like this on untold Chinese websites for about 50 pence each, then buy them in bulk thinking their getting a good deal, how many people buy dodgy, unsafe LED floods daily, just because the ‘same’ one is £10 dearer in reputable hardware stores!

And people gripe about the President's tariffs.
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