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Album name:Vez Lighting / Damaged street light.
Keywords:Lanterns
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Date added:Jan 23, 2007
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Date Time:2007:01:21 23:37:45
DateTime Original:2007:01:20 14:19:46
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Jan 23, 2007 at 09:14 AM Author:
That's nasty looking never seen a streetlight catch on fire is this HPS or something else
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Jan 23, 2007 at 10:22 AM Author: Santaarnpaal
Short circuit?
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Jan 23, 2007 at 10:36 AM Author: Raphael
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Jan 23, 2007 at 10:40 AM Author: SeanB~1
Plastic burns nicely.............

Definitely proves the advantages of using metal!
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Jan 23, 2007 at 10:50 AM Author: lightboy90
Maybe they used a too high wattage for the bulb and then the ballast burned out, and then the plastic begans to burn, ....
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Jan 23, 2007 at 11:00 AM Author: SeanB~1
Or the lamp burst an arc tube and the igniter did the rest...........




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Jan 23, 2007 at 01:28 PM Author:
maybe bird nest situation....thats what happened to this fixture here....




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Jan 23, 2007 at 01:55 PM Author:
Very unlikely because the Urbis\Sheder Sapphire lanterns have a sealsafe system and there is no room for birds nests in it. It could have been an electrical fault or mayby as lighboy90 suggested, a lamp was fitted with too high wattage.




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Jan 23, 2007 at 02:17 PM Author:
or a crap Ballast which overheated and caught fire




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Jan 23, 2007 at 02:18 PM Author:
That sounds likely as I have heard of crap ballasts catching fire, especially without thermal cutouts
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Jan 23, 2007 at 04:45 PM Author: prawnman88
well we had this toyota dealership were they had the smaller version of the typical box light anyhow some jerk at the delaership decided now this is before we took the account that well out here in arizona 99% of car dealerships have 1000w mh bulbs well who ever made this lot had 250w mh fixtures they decided to do a "retro fit" and put in 400w mh well this caused all the glass over a month to shatter !!!!!! during the night over a month and all over customers and cars and they wanted us to honor the glass the owner of my company said uh no !!! so seeing this pic reminds me of that day the funny thing after i drove in there a few fixtres i was liek is some one shooting this glass out ? and my coworker said well thers is over 100 fixtures i don't think so




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Jan 23, 2007 at 07:11 PM Author:
So far I've seen a few of those post top amenity lantern go up in flames due to heavy rains and water/moisture entering the cavity, next morning U'll see this.... .




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Jan 23, 2007 at 07:28 PM Author:
what you have pictures IMJ but you are going to show us in the morning?




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Jan 23, 2007 at 08:20 PM Author:
Those were the old Thorn Prismatic globes in the park...I din't have a digital camera at that time... . Now they all have been replaced by the Disano Clima. I've yet to see them go up in flames though . I saw one of the workmen removed the reflector asembly of the AM202...the ballast was charred .




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Jan 23, 2007 at 08:40 PM Author:
oh well what a shame I never have seen a streetlamp catch fire before i must say that it is unusual for me anyway
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Jan 28, 2007 at 12:07 AM Author: arcblue
That's amazing. I've never seen or heard of a streetlamp catching fire & burning like this either. In the U.S. most of them are metal but some of the cheapest ones or decorative ones are plastic. I could see it happening to a "Durastar" perhaps as they are made poorly to begin with. Still wouldn't it take seriously high heat to burn? I've had some failed overheated CFL's and they melt & deform the plastic bases but won't combust.

I'm lampin...

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Jan 28, 2007 at 05:03 PM Author: Vez Lighting
Most probably the magnetic ballast was the rootcause, and the problem magnified due to flammable materials (plastic).
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Jan 28, 2007 at 05:44 PM Author: don93s
Imagine driving down the street and seeing a streetlight on fire! I would think that even the metal ones could get a direct hit from lightning and make a spectacle!
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Nov 15, 2008 at 12:54 AM Author: monkeyface
Now I know what would cause this! It can happen in every Saphir 1 latern, which is equipped with the Easylok system ( Plastic Reflector) , it's due to the bad contact in the lamp socket connection, causing destructive heat and sometime fire. In this case here the latern canopy was made of Polypropylene, that's the reason why the canopy is missing.

All standart Saphir1 laterns are made entirely made of Aluminium, also the new reflector, the bowl is made of glas.
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Nov 15, 2008 at 09:50 AM Author: sparkie
Nasty!

Lucky this was a lantern on top of a pole outdoors - it doesn't bear thinking about what would happened if this were inside a building
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Apr 01, 2017 at 11:40 PM Author: xelareverse
i hope my sapphire doesnt end up this way

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Apr 02, 2017 at 08:45 AM Author: Ash
Short circuit across the lamp (from damaged wiring) setting the ballast on fire. Use a ballast with thermal protection, or add one yourself
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Apr 02, 2017 at 08:59 AM Author: Cal

Now I know what would cause this! It can happen in every Saphir 1 latern, which is equipped with the Easylok system ( Plastic Reflector) , it's due to the bad contact in the lamp socket connection, causing destructive heat and sometime fire. In this case here the latern canopy was made of Polypropylene, that's the reason why the canopy is missing.

All standart Saphir1 laterns are made entirely made of Aluminium, also the new reflector, the bowl is made of glas.


Yup, I had a plastic sapphire. All round cheap and nasty to be honest, but I paid very little for it and got the valuable Philips xtreme Cosmo gear out of it.
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Apr 02, 2017 at 10:29 AM Author: Beta 5

Yup, I had a plastic sapphire. All round cheap and nasty to be honest, but I paid very little for it and got the valuable Philips xtreme Cosmo gear out of it.


I got a couple of metal canopied SON-T versions, one is black and the other green, theyre great as they so small for what they are, but they don't have ant form of sealing gasket round the canopy, so spiders etc can get in .
Did yours have a grubscrew bar and plastic wedges (to keep this in) in the spigot? Unfortunately my black one is missing the grub screw bar, due to it missing one of the plastic wedges that are supposed to stop it falling out.

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Apr 02, 2017 at 11:09 AM Author: Lodge

Short circuit across the lamp (from damaged wiring) setting the ballast on fire. Use a ballast with thermal protection, or add one yourself


Good plan, or at bare minimum use a fuse they are only a few cents...
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Apr 02, 2017 at 07:08 PM Author: xmaslightguy
I once saw a streetlight that had torched, but it was metal, so the body was still intact... but the glass (plastic maybe?) cover was gone & there were strands of melted plastic, & the wires hanging out.

Had the camera with me, but I was driving so couldn't get a pic.

Colored Fluorescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome...

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