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My neighborhood was changed out to LED this week and the American Electric Autobahn ATBS fixtures were chosen. While I'm sad to lose HPS, the changeover was inevitable, and I was hoping that the utility wouldn't install a Leotek fixture or something worse. This is the model I like best of all the fixtures the utility is currently using to replace 100w HPS. At least this looks similar to an HID cobrahead day or night, and the 4000K color is pleasant. It looks much like a metal halide cobrahead. It has glass optics. I do not know the wattage or lumens but I will guess it's the 39w model.

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Light Information

Light Information

Manufacturer:American Electric
Model Reference:Autobahn ATBS E R2
Lamp
Lamp Type:LED
Service Life:100,000 hrs rated
Fixture
Fixture Type:Roadway/cobrahead style
Ballast Type:Electronic driver module
Photocell Type:Twist-lock/NEMA (DTL?)
Electrical
Wattage:39 (not certain)
Voltage:120
Optical
Lumen Output:8500 (not certain)
Color Temperature:4000K
Color Rendering Index:70

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Jul 07, 2017 at 07:49 PM Author: streetlight98
Yep they used these here in Cranston too. Except ours are 3000K. They used 20W to replace 50W HPS, 40W to replace 100w HPS, 70W to replace 250W (way too dim) and 133W to replace 400w HPS.

This is the PDF and you can see the wattages compared to the lumens. The 20W LED (shown as 19W but my 20W AEL ATBS has the same catalog number as the 19W so I think AEL rounds their NEMA tags or the wattage might vary a little) gives only 2500L, about equal to a 150W 750HR incandescent lamp. Because of the concentrated optics though it is surprisingly comparable to a 50W HPS. Slightly dimmer but the whiter light makes it just as easy to see under.

The 40W ones get about 4800L, just slightly better than 100W MV. And honestly, they only appear slightly brighter than 100W MV. There were some recently relamped 100W MVs in my area that got replaced with 40W LEDs (they don't know the difference between MV and HPS. They see the "10" on the door as assume it's 100W HPS) and the light level increased only slightly.

The 70W LEDs (ATBM) are rated for around 8000L or equal to a coated 175W MV lamp. They do appear slightly brighter than a 175W MV but then again, none of the 175W MVs here have been relamped since before 2000 so quite honestly I don't know what a brand new 175W MV looks like lighting the street. If I had to make an educated guess though I'd say the 70W LEDs are closer to 150W HPS than they are 250W HPS. Certainly nowhere near 250W HPS. They really pushed it with that low of a wattage.

There are only a few 133W LEDs in the city. I'm actually surprised they even bothered ordering LEDs to replace them. I figured they'd just consider the 400w HPS to be 250W HPS like other cities have done. TBH the 133W LEDs are more appropriate to replace the 250W HPS. They're decently bright. At 15000L though they would rival a new 250W MV in brightness. They never used 250W MV here so I can't compare the two though.

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Jul 17, 2017 at 09:22 PM Author: xelareverse
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thaey coulhave at least used something good like a ge evolve, AEL LED fixtures are the worse.

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Jul 17, 2017 at 09:33 PM Author: Lumex120
GE Evolves are even worse than these. These aren't as glary and light up a slighly larger area. Also, you stretched out the homepage. : P

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Jul 17, 2017 at 09:37 PM Author: xmaslightguy
Not too bad in the looks department.
no need to 'kill it with fire' xelareverse

Colored Fluorescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome...

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Jul 17, 2017 at 09:55 PM Author: Lodge
When they do my street, it'll just make my LPS lights stand out better, with the better color contrast it will create..
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