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28W 2D bulkhead

28W 2D bulkhead

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This runs all night off a nearby photocell. It's just a cheap Rexel brand.

This is mounted on the garage wall above the roller door, illuminating my car in the driveway safely every night.

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Manufacturer:Rexel
Model Reference:28W
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Lamp Type:2 pin 2D
Filament/Radiator Type:Fluorescent
Electrical
Wattage:28W
Voltage:250V
Optical
Color Temperature:4000K

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May 20, 2017 at 04:31 AM Author: Flurofan96
Looks very nice for a cheap fixture as you say this lamp looks to be a halophosphate 4000K like some FL tubes when they age they have a whitewashed look similar to coated MV HID lamps

I can see that some bugs managed to get through the cover hopefully they're not the dangerous type

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May 20, 2017 at 05:01 AM Author: Mercurylamps
Yeah the tube is just a cheapo one that came with it, I'll stick in a GE 28W which I have a number of in storage when this one fails.

Yeah those bugs are just harmless, just some flies and moths because I forgot to tighten the cover screws, thankfully being under the eaves no water has entered.
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May 20, 2017 at 05:22 AM Author: Flurofan96
Good job no water has entered is the fixture electronic ballasted or magnetic

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May 20, 2017 at 05:29 AM Author: Mercurylamps
It has a magnetic ballast so it is rather blink happy and should last a long time. I also have stocks of replacement ballasts.
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May 20, 2017 at 05:39 AM Author: Flurofan96
Ah Now I can see, because there is the obvious starter

Good job with a big stock of replacement ballasts. I have also some news, my parents are wanting to upgrade family bathroom and the T8 36W fixture has to be taken down

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May 20, 2017 at 05:49 AM Author: Mercurylamps
Ooh, you know what the plans are for the lighting?
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May 20, 2017 at 06:09 AM Author: Beta 5
I like this, reminds me of my lighting set up with a cheap 16w 2pin 2D bulkhead above the door of my cabin
Being magnetic it should last ages.

FF96, it can only be 840 triphosphate, 2Ds are never made in Halophosphate, I believe the higher temp. of the CFL 2D shape would make halo in-efficient.

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May 20, 2017 at 06:28 AM Author: Flurofan96
Oh sox my bad, Beta 5

Yes i know my plans for lighting. Unfortunately the replacement lighting for the upgraded bathroom would be these disc shaped recessed LED panel lights Mum's blessed idea

But I have agreed with my dad to move the 36W T8 FL fixture to his office where he has currently a dim halogen pendant light with a stylish look

I will give LEDisease a taste of my shoe

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May 20, 2017 at 06:52 AM Author: Beta 5

Oh sox my bad, Beta 5

Yes i know my plans for lighting. Unfortunately the replacement lighting for the upgraded bathroom would be these disc shaped recessed LED panel lights Mum's blessed idea

But I have agreed with my dad to move the 36W T8 FL fixture to his office where he has currently a dim halogen pendant light with a stylish look



That's a shame, maybe warn her about BLH(Blue light hazard) of the LEDs, as it you use the bathroom in the night, the blue light will wake you up.

I am banning all non-retrofit (GLS and halogen only retrofits) LEDs in my house, if anyone tries to install LEDs (especially in place of FL) I'll kick up a fuss

P.S. "oh sox" LOL

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May 20, 2017 at 09:32 AM Author: Flurofan96
Sadly thats how she wants it my dad and I voted for a recessed FL light but when electrician came over to the house he said that the chances of finding one like that suitable for the bathroom is slim and also the majority of them are designed for ceiling with a higher void between the ceiling and the floor/roof. So i have no choice but to embrace it, despite electrician saying that we have to use LEDS

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May 20, 2017 at 03:24 PM Author: Beta 5
Something like that Thorn EMI Super nova recessed 2D fixture I have, would probably go lovely in your bathroom, just a pity they haven't been made for probably 20 years!
Anyway do upload a photo of said LED, and comment on its CCT (hopefully not sterile 6500K) and light output, and of course if it goes EOLED.

Have they considered a few IP65 halogen downlights, with 2700K led MR16 12v lamps fitted? This would mean that the LED lamps are only retrofits, so you could use halogen if you wanted to.

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May 20, 2017 at 03:40 PM Author: Flurofan96
You know what, Beta 5 I'd sell my blood for 6 of these Thorn EMI Super Nova fixtures. Did a lightning bolt check on Ebay only to see NONE AHHHH now you've reminded of this fixture I'd love to have them instead of the blessed LED recessed circline panel lights and halogen MR16/GU10 downlight Oh geez I am not a fan of these Gu10/MR16 halogen downlight even if they have the LED or CFL bulbs.

It was the electrician who suggested the LED circline panel lights

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May 20, 2017 at 04:13 PM Author: Beta 5
If an electrician (or anyone for that matter) started suggesting to me that I change all my lighting to LED, I'd tell them where to go
Yeah, I got that back in October, the seller had 2 but the other must have sold now, I just checked the seller I got it from(just incase ebay didn't bring it upon your search), but none are listed

I have my own lighting plan for tomorrow, I will be probably fitting up a 60w incandescent bulkhead near the shed to light up a dark gap

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May 20, 2017 at 07:30 PM Author: Mercurylamps
Shame your mother wants LED in the bathroom instead, it probably wouldn't last long with the humidity of a hot shower.

Actually that is a good idea to kill the LEDs quickly.
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May 21, 2017 at 05:25 AM Author: Flurofan96
The only alternative for bathroom recessed lighting on the market is those blessed recessed Halogen MR16/GU10 lighting which reminds me of some cheap restaurants I went to, especially the Asian/Chinese themed ones. Them Chinese are very fond of having MR16/GU10 and I don't want lighting in my house that remind me of such places! 3 years ago for my cousin's birthday outing, we went to a Chinese restaurant in Reading and it was alright in decor but they had them MR16/GU10 halogen downlighting The next day I felt crap because I've eaten something that doesn't agree with me!

Another thing is for bathroom lighting, I really despise the halogen or incandescent bathroom rated fixtures because I don't want a yellow incandescent glow in the bathroom, its not my type of lighting and always had such fond memories of bathtime during before bed and the cool white FL light along with its buzzing ballast ugh why is there NO suitable recessed FL lighting that can be used for bathroom? I really WANT those Thorn EMI Super Nova 2D recessed lights, they would be PERFECT Sadly my mum doesn't want a surface mount fixture of any type as well, she only wants recessed type lighting.

Actually it would be fun for me to be on the lookout of EOLEDS in mY HOUSE for a start hopefully the hot shower will give them LED panels a what for I will post the offending fixtures when the upgrade takes place

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May 21, 2017 at 01:51 PM Author: Ash
With the MR16/GU10 Halogens, if there is no front Glass i can imagine one of them going bang from a stray drop of Water. But with Glass or more away from the Water source they will be fine

PL can would work fine for your situation. If there is no room vertcally above the hole there are the cans with horizontal lamps like Trilux Ambiella PL (there is also a LED version, with actually functional reflector which is quite rare with LEDs, but while it is fairly decent for a LED design it still nowhere near the PL)
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May 21, 2017 at 03:01 PM Author: Beta 5
Partially completed my little lighting project today.

I fitted one of THESE up in the gap down the side of my shed, and fitted it with a status 60w clear GLS.
I wired it up with my Fitzgerald TH-500 open halogen floodlight, using a junction box, taking the supply that went to the flood, into a connector, and connecting up a new lead for the flood, and bringing the lead from the bulkhead round to the box.

I took the TH-500 down, as the bracket was rusted (paint flaking) and screws were going rusty already after just 1 year outside (installed may 2016), I removed all the loose paint, and sanded it down, then coated it in primer, then hammerite silver spray paint.

The flood will be going back up tomorrow, once the paints dry, and I'll upload pictures of it

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May 21, 2017 at 03:03 PM Author: Ash
1 year and it rusts ? Is it even intended for outdoor use ?
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May 21, 2017 at 03:09 PM Author: Beta 5
Yep its an open halogen floodlight so for outdoor use only, it seems like they just used crap paint on the bracket, IMO they should have used aluminium, or galvanised steel.
http://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3991&pos=9&pid=130454 (its just the bent bit that is screwed on the wall that was rusty, the actual light itself is cast aluminium, though the lampholder bolts had surface rust, from condensation)

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May 21, 2017 at 03:19 PM Author: Ash
Paint is not sealed. It is to be expected that any moisture can and will reach under the paint, and if it is not Galvanized it will rust
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May 24, 2017 at 03:50 AM Author: Mercurylamps
I've seen halogen floods rusting in a short time when used outdoors or even indoors in a coastal area. Probably a poor attempt to reduce costs.
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Feb 16, 2018 at 03:18 AM Author: Beta 5
How is this lamp doing, Mercurylamps?

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Feb 16, 2018 at 05:12 AM Author: Mercurylamps
Still burning away in 2018.
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Feb 16, 2018 at 08:25 AM Author: Beta 5
Good, is it showing any sign of wear at the electrodes, or darkening phosphor at the bends?
My Sylvania 16w/835 is still burning from May although one electrode has gone a bit blackened.

Have you got an off picture of the bulkhead, and a picture of its internals?

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Feb 17, 2018 at 04:35 AM Author: Mercurylamps
There is a small amount of banding at the electrodes at the moment, and currently I haven't taken an off picture since I'm waiting for winter when the spider webs clear since there's some big spiders nearby. I haven't taken a photo of the internals yet either, although it should be clean and relatively rust-free since I don't live near the water.
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Feb 17, 2018 at 04:35 AM Author: Mercurylamps
Also THIS appears to be the exact same bulkhead I have.
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Feb 17, 2018 at 05:47 AM Author: Beta 5
2D bulkheads mostly seem to be well sealed, my 16w one on all night, hasn't got any rust, although its covered by the roof edge, so doesn't really see much water
I generally find they seem to do about 1.5-2 years when on all night, switch start. they may go on longer with an electronic starter fitted, although its not really possible with 2pin lamps.
I have just got a load of those same bulkheads, but in 16w (see here)
They are actually Thorn Leopards, just branded newlec, and have exactly the same base and gear tray as the Leopards, just a different shape diffuser. (there are some other pics of the 1 leopard I got in the lot of those newlec bulkheads.)

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Feb 19, 2018 at 11:31 PM Author: Mercurylamps
I agree, a lot of 2D bulkheads seem to sealed well. Fortunately there is a good stock of 2D lamps at my wholesalers, they have GE lamps if I recall. I wonder if this bulkhead would be a Thorn as well since it seems to be the same. I'm sure it has a Tridonic ballast if I remember.
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