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Powerline Gumball Still in USE

Powerline Gumball Still in USE

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In Use in Ayr, Ontario with Standard Light Fixture Arm. Using a Liteline 17W Outdoor Floodlight 120V

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Manufacturer:Powerline
Model Reference:1001 Gumball
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Wattage:Up tp 200 W

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Aug 20, 2015 at 03:18 PM Author: streetlight98
Nice! I get that this is a standard wood pole but wood poles are direct-bury, so they don't have bases.

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Aug 20, 2015 at 03:27 PM Author: Ayrhead
That is correct. The wood poles are about 4 1/2 feet in the ground. All of our poles are that way as we don't have any other type of pole on the property
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Aug 20, 2015 at 03:34 PM Author: Ayrhead
The base I am referring to was the base of the light arm attaching to the hydro pole. And the pole I was referring to, I should have said the arm that supports the light head. Sorry for the poor terminology that I used...
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Aug 20, 2015 at 03:53 PM Author: streetlight98
Oh I see. No worries. Makes more sense now lol.

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Aug 20, 2015 at 04:38 PM Author: Ayrhead
I just edited the description on the picture. Hopefully my terminology is correct.
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Aug 20, 2015 at 05:58 PM Author: streetlight98
Yep, perfect. BTW, does the 17W LED do well? Doesn't sound too bright. What wattage incandescent were you using? 17W is probably only as bright as a 100W incandescent. At 25ft up it must not light very much. Bet it saves some energy though!

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Aug 20, 2015 at 06:06 PM Author: Ayrhead
It puts out about 120 w. The lighting is adequate
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Aug 20, 2015 at 06:09 PM Author: streetlight98
Watts is a unit of energy consumption. You would use lumens to determine how bright it is. How many lumens is the LED lamp rated for on its box?

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Aug 21, 2015 at 07:28 AM Author: Ayrhead
1200 Lumens. I uploaded the specs sheet as well as the picture of the flood light. What I thought was unique was that these lights will operate at a temperature of -40 Celcius. Most of the other ones we saw only operated at -25 Celcius. We wanted a bulb that I wasn't going to have to change for at least 5 years. Presently I was changing bulbs out after 10 months.
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Aug 21, 2015 at 03:37 PM Author: streetlight98
Ah so that is the same lamp. This would be equivalent to a standard 100W incandescent lamp it looks like. How does the flood light perform inside this light? I would think a CFL would perform better since with this flood light lamp, the reflector is not being utilized so the light is not going to be distributed through the glass refractor as it was intended to be. Sure looks good by day though, that's for sure! Could you take some evening shots when the lights come on but while it's still sorta light outside? I would be interested to see them lit up.

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Aug 21, 2015 at 03:43 PM Author: Solanaceae
Ahh so that's why you're named Ayrhead.

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Aug 21, 2015 at 04:07 PM Author: Ash
230V 100W 1000 hour rated incandescent is 1340 Lm. 120V incandescents are far more efficient than that, so unless you have long life incandescents in mind, a 120V 100W incandescent would put up way more than 1340 Lm.... 1200 Lm is probably about as far as 75W goes
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Aug 21, 2015 at 04:45 PM Author: Ayrhead
I'll try and get you an evening shot within a week.
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Aug 21, 2015 at 05:16 PM Author: streetlight98
@ Ash: Interesting. Yeah I haven't seen standard 120V incandescents for a long time. I typically had only seen the double-life 2000 hour lamps, which had slightly reduced lumens. The 1000 hour lamps were brighter. Both rated for 120V. 130V lamps will pretty much last forever but they're pretty inefficient and the color is a heavier yellow hue.

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Aug 21, 2015 at 11:17 PM Author: joseph_125
Nice light! I wonder what happened to the bottom brace that's normally installed with this sort of arm.

Yeah I haven't seen 100w 120v 1000 hour incandescent bulbs for years, I think even before the ban they were a bit hard to find. I still see the 130v and the 120v 2000 hour ones though. I suppose the 130v ones can be ran at full power with a variac or a boost transformer.
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Aug 22, 2015 at 06:15 AM Author: Ayrhead
I still have about 20 bottom braces. We just never installed them. If some one was interested in purchasing one of my remaining stock pieces without the glass I would let the bottom brace go with the sale
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Aug 22, 2015 at 08:38 AM Author: streetlight98
Just out of curiosity, what would you charge for just the street light head (no arm)? I live in the United States so shipping would probably be way too high for me but someday I might like one of those Powerlite gumball lights like above since they're really cool.

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Aug 22, 2015 at 04:28 PM Author: Ayrhead
PM me and we can discuss it
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Aug 22, 2015 at 04:32 PM Author: Solanaceae
If I can get ahold of a complete NEMA bucket, it'll be all yours if you trade me one.
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Aug 22, 2015 at 04:37 PM Author: Ash
Those arms have huge leverage when sticking out like that unsipported. Installing them without the additiona bracket is nothing short of begging for a structural failure, especially around the plate at the bracket's base or the drilled hole in the pole
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Aug 22, 2015 at 04:38 PM Author: Solanaceae
It helps that there's no ballast in the light. Plus, I've seen lightposts this style and they have a thin metal bar that supports it.

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Aug 22, 2015 at 04:45 PM Author: Ash
It weights hell of a lot even without the ballast

The metal bar may look thin but it moves the leverage point away from the pole, and drops the torques on the atachment point by as much - that can easy be by 10 times for a not so big looking extra strip of metal...

If the support is above the arm, it changes the direction of forces present at the bolt, from forces that pull to rip it out through the hole, to forces thst push the plate at the wood surface and only very little affect the bolt and hole

With the force present pulling on the bolt the way it is here, the pole will be cracking in half (a vertical crack) starting from the hole and up. The moment the crack splits, the bolt will pul through and the entire bracket and everything will be falling down
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Aug 22, 2015 at 04:53 PM Author: Ayrhead
Well they have been up for 20+ years without any issues to date
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Aug 22, 2015 at 05:01 PM Author: Ash
It is never late for structural failures

In the case here, it is combined effect of the force on the bolt and aging of the wood, corrosion of welded joints and micro-cracking from excessive wobbling in the wind (without the bracket), that will make it fail after so much years of being "fine"
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Aug 22, 2015 at 05:10 PM Author: Solanaceae
I second what Ash said. Metal and wood degradation will be enhanced if you live near the sea or other bodies of water. I'd rather use an arm like this if I owned the light. But of course, that would take away from vintage look of the setup.

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Aug 22, 2015 at 06:03 PM Author: Ash
Can use the existing vintage arm, but install it correctly with all the required parts.... That would basically be an additional strip connecting a point farther away on the bracket with a clamp around the pole above
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Aug 22, 2015 at 10:22 PM Author: joseph_125
In case if you guys are wondering, this is how I typically see these arms installed.

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Aug 22, 2015 at 10:42 PM Author: Solanaceae
I've seen some similar to this. Does yours have that collar where the extra support bar is, Ayrhead?
Edit: That collar looks to have slid down the arm of the light where the bracket bolts to the post.

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Aug 22, 2015 at 11:16 PM Author: joseph_125
Yeah, installing that the bottom bracing should be a snap then. I think the old arms look better with it installed too.
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Aug 22, 2015 at 11:31 PM Author: Solanaceae
Ayrhead's must've gotten blown off in a storm and then picked up by garbage men or scrappers.

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Aug 23, 2015 at 06:45 AM Author: Ayrhead
Quite an interesting discussion going on. Thanks for everyone's input and concern about my light. If you look at the other two pictures that have different heads on them, they have the same type of base and arm without supports. I have shortened the arms in their length. That is what we in tend to do on the remaining lights rather than put up the additional support arm. It may not be your choice or preference but it is what we have chosen to do.
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Aug 23, 2015 at 06:49 PM Author: Ayrhead
Here is the evening shot. Camera is not the best but this is what I got...

It lights up the side of a mobile home as well gives a fair bit of light on the ground. It's just hard to see with the poor quality picture...
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Aug 23, 2015 at 06:56 PM Author: streetlight98
Is that this one with the LED? Or is the one in the picture incandescent? Looks like it's just enough light to see by but keeps that nice in-the-woods atmosphere.

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Aug 23, 2015 at 07:12 PM Author: Ayrhead
It has the LED in it. Like the one that I have in my gallery.
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