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Halarc Is here!

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OK to try it out or are there electrolytic capacitors that will explode after sitting dormant for 40 years?

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Mar 14, 2019 at 08:30 AM Author: Lightingguy1994
I would think its too old to have electronics, it should have a magnetic choke inside. Is this lamp heavy?
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Mar 14, 2019 at 08:39 AM Author: fluorescent lover 40

I would think its too old to have electronics, it should have a magnetic choke inside. Is this lamp heavy?


These actually do have a electronic ballast. These were the first "consumer" HID lamps.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 08:43 AM Author: Lightingguy1994
Wow yeah i would probably wanna take caution then. I thought this was a CFL. Also didn't see the little text on the box that said electronic arc light lol.

If I had one, I would probably connect it to a light switch and then just give it a second or two with the power on and see what it does in that time. I don't think it'll go up in flames with only a second of power. Would be interesting to see this lit
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Mar 14, 2019 at 08:47 AM Author: dor123
http://www.lamptech.co.uk/Spec%20Sheets/D%20MHQ%20GE%20Electronic%20Halarc%20Clear.htm

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230-240V, 50hz country.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 09:20 AM Author: HU112
Holy smokes where did you find that?

No more cheapy crappy Chinese junk, please.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 09:21 AM Author: fluorescent lover 40
If it's the ones that Patrick posted, you must have a good "amount!"

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Mar 14, 2019 at 09:27 AM Author: socketgeek63
That is an awesome find!

Long live the great old 20th century quality in electrical & lighting products!

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Mar 14, 2019 at 09:56 AM Author: rjluna2
Wow!

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 10:25 AM Author: xmaslightguy
Neat find!!!

Colored Fluorescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome...

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Mar 14, 2019 at 11:19 AM Author: Medved

These actually do have a electronic ballast. These were the first "consumer" HID lamps.


It is not a true electronic ballast, the main ballasting (current regulating) e,ement is the incandescent filament.
The electronic there is just a rectifier,
an auxiliary "arc keeper" - a circuit feeding the arc by very small current during time when the mains voltage is below the arc voltage, to maintain the ionisation and so allow easy reignition the next mains half cycle
and the igniter.
I do not know the exact circuit, but the only thing where I may imagine the use of electrolytics would be the arc keeper (I would expect a voltage multiplier plus a resistor limiting the keeper current)

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Mar 14, 2019 at 11:53 AM Author: vintagefluorescent
Wow - That’s a nice one !!!

Are You sure You want to open it up and try it out ?
I certainly would not recommend doing that ,

I believe the seller has used ones You can buy and try,

If I had this - There’s absolutely no way I would ever open it up and light it - Big messss take ,

You just purchased a major investment 👍
Congratulations!!!!
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Mar 14, 2019 at 12:33 PM Author: dor123

It is not a true electronic ballast, the main ballasting (current regulating) e,ement is the incandescent filament.
The electronic there is just a rectifier,
an auxiliary "arc keeper" - a circuit feeding the arc by very small current during time when the mains voltage is below the arc voltage, to maintain the ionisation and so allow easy reignition the next mains half cycle
and the igniter.
I do not know the exact circuit, but the only thing where I may imagine the use of electrolytics would be the arc keeper (I would expect a voltage multiplier plus a resistor limiting the keeper current)

But the filament glowing all the time, even when the arctube cooling down hot restrike.

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230-240V, 50hz country.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 12:59 PM Author: rom1
this lamp is too rare and too expensive, for risk of damaging it by using it! should be better preserved in its original packaging !! you can buy another used, cheaper to make it work !

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-GE-Halarc-Miser-Maxi-Light-Residential-Metal-Halide-Lightbulb-HTF-RARE/283408817738?hash=item41fc7b5e4a:g:XZgAAOSwxplcgdY2

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Mar 14, 2019 at 01:29 PM Author: HomeBrewLamps
even I agree with these guys...

And I'm the type of person who tests every lamp he owns.... but this ones a definite exception... keep it in package since there is other ones you could test and use! it is very valuable in the original packaging. especially once people realize the true historic value (if they haven't already).

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Mar 14, 2019 at 01:37 PM Author: dor123
This lamp is safe. The arctube is protected by a shroud. The cause of the American CFLs to set in fire, isn't related to the presence of an electrolytic capacitor (Which exists in all electronic ballasts), but because some CFLs use crap voltage doubler topology which designed to explode at lamp EOL. All 230V CFLs outside NA, aren't dangerous like the American ones.

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230-240V, 50hz country.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 03:46 PM Author: Silverliner
Congratulations for getting such a rare and historically important lamp. Welcome to the same boat I am in, I have one too.

May all the great lighting technologies have their place in history.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 04:00 PM Author: Lumex120
These are really cool bulbs. I just wish they had been more popular and weren't so hard to find.

Any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 04:09 PM Author: mdcastle
Thanks for the comments. I still haven't taken it out of the package; I'm ambivalent about doing so since I recognize the uniqueness about it but on the other hand it irks me that I can't handle it and see it light up. I do know about the loose ones for sale, I've thought about buying one but have thought that since there's five of them they might sit a while and the seller might eventually lower the price a bit. The other bulbs in my collection I'll generally open the package if I can do so without destroying the package like a blister pack, otherwise I'll keep both sealed and loose ones. I view the package as part of the allure of the item. I wouldn't mind having the demonstration models but I'd value them as less than one in retail package, not more so relative the prices asked it was not an purchase I wanted to make.

I negotiated a little off the price but obviously it was still expensive. As a professional without a family to support I do have means to support my hobbies, and I have a particular interest in both goofy LEDs as well as older CFLS and such. I paid a lot for some of my traffic signals and my NOS low pressure sodium vapor streetlight. With that one there wasn't a question of leaving it in it's box (which was not in great shape) because the odds of getting another one are essentially zero whereas Halarc lamps do show up from time to time.

Maybe I can open a museum?
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Mar 14, 2019 at 05:09 PM Author: arcblue
I'm amazed these are showincg up on eBay including a clear demonstration version. Very cool that you have this. It looks like you could probably remove it from the packaging without damaging the packaging. I guess the decision would be....do you want to keep it as a collectible for future resale, in which case, leave it alone & don't use it....or is it for you...in which case, I say, you only live this life once, and lamps are made to be lit...

I don't think I own anything valuable enough that it's worth more left to sit than be used...and I feel with lamps, there's a risk they may be knocked off a shelf or dropped in handling so in many respects, they are safer in a fixture. Also I do like to burn anything with an integrated ballast at least once a year for a few hours in hopes the electrolytics don't dry out. Not sure that is true or accurate but it "feels" my lamps call to me to be used and not left to sit...

Personally, I wouldn't be able to resist not lighting the Miser Maxi Light if I had one

I'm lampin...

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Mar 14, 2019 at 05:11 PM Author: CEB1993
Wow! What an amazing find This one GE Miser product I hope to find someday. I've never seen one of these lit, but I'm sure the MH-like light quality is beautiful. Enjoy your amazing rare lamp here!

Philips DuraMax and GE Miser forever!  Classic incandescents are the best incandescents!

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Mar 14, 2019 at 05:57 PM Author: lightinglover8902
Where did you find this?

Save the Cooper OVWs!! Don't them down by crap LED fixtures!!!

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Mar 14, 2019 at 06:50 PM Author: Patrick
FYI, I did open mine and was able to get it back into the package. Mine wasn't technically unused, given that the eBay seller I bought from had also tested it, but at least I could be confident it wasn't likely to blow.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 07:58 PM Author: vintagefluorescent
I noticed the clear one On eBay had a darkened arc tube
I don’t know if that’s normal or if the bulb was burned in at G-E by the engineers for testing or not ,

Sad but true the reason we are beginning to see the good stuff surface is due to older collectors dying off,
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Mar 14, 2019 at 08:04 PM Author: Lumex120


Sad but true the reason we are beginning to see the good stuff surface is due to older collectors dying off,

Yeah that kind of bothers me...

Any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.

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Mar 14, 2019 at 10:11 PM Author: takemorepills

Sad but true the reason we are beginning to see the good stuff surface is due to older collectors dying off,


This is why I suggest just using the darn lamp.

It is true that if it sits around long enough, some electronic components may possibly deteriorate, at which point what would it matter that you kept it in an unsealed package?

For something made in 1980, it should still be fine to use. If you die without using it, what was the point in acquiring it? So some rando person can profit from your estate OR throw that "old lightbulb" in the trash?
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Mar 14, 2019 at 10:39 PM Author: HomeBrewLamps

This is why I suggest just using the darn lamp.

It is true that if it sits around long enough, some electronic components may possibly deteriorate, at which point what would it matter that you kept it in an unsealed package?

For something made in 1980, it should still be fine to use. If you die without using it, what was the point in acquiring it? So some rando person can profit from your estate OR throw that "old lightbulb" in the trash?

That thought has crossed my mind a few times. It clashes with the idea of preservation of historical stuff.... But at the end of the day how many people in the world actually care about lights... Once I pass on unless I specifically mention in a will or something for items to be preserved (even then no guarantees) pretty sure most of this stuff will get trashed...


I noticed the clear one On eBay had a darkened arc tube
I don’t know if that’s normal or if the bulb was burned in at G-E by the engineers for testing or not ,

Sad but true the reason we are beginning to see the good stuff surface is due to older collectors dying off,

Really? Who?? That's sad...

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