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VFD at Otis Elevator

VFD at Otis Elevator

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As discussed at Westinghouse F30T12 in the Elevator, I wanted to show you this elevator with the Vacuum Fluorescent Display at the control module inside to determine the age of this car.

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Manufacturer:Otis
Lamp
Lamp Type:Vacuum Fluorescent Display
Filament/Radiator Type:Wire
Base:Pin
Shape/Finish:Flat Panel Tube
Fixture
Location:South Downtown, Atlanta, GA, USA
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Application/Use:To display which floor we are at

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Nov 05, 2018 at 12:25 PM Author: merc
Didn't know you had OTIS lifts in the USA. I thought they were local (or European) only.

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Nov 05, 2018 at 02:27 PM Author: sol
Otis is an American company.

I have seen here in Canada, some from each of the major manufacturers of elevators (lifts) : Otis, Thyssen-Krupp, Schindler, Koné. There are many others, but most were acquired by one of the major ones some time ago.
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Nov 05, 2018 at 02:39 PM Author: migette1
Check out Beno on You Tube he knows about lifts and manufacturers throughout the world. All those companies mentioned by sol are known around the world while others like Toshiba deal with the far east etc. Hope this helps.

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Nov 05, 2018 at 02:48 PM Author: migette1
BTW I have a copy of a patent by a very old lift maker of a neon lamp showing 2 arrows indicating up or down which would be on each landing. Whether this was ever made I do not know, the company was Marriot? of Marriot and Scot of Hounslow London

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Nov 05, 2018 at 02:49 PM Author: sol

BTW I have a copy of a patent by a very old lift maker of a neon lamp showing 2 arrows indicating up or down which would be on each landing. Whether this was ever made I do not know, the company was Marriot? of Marriot and Scot of Hounslow London


Would this have worked in a similar fashion to Nixie tubes ?
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Nov 05, 2018 at 03:02 PM Author: migette1
Yes but would only have 3 electrodes 1 common 2 up arrow 3 down arrow Nixies were not around then, although they work with neon with many electrodes normally 1 2 3....to 0 and a common electrode,I can put one up on gallery.

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Nov 05, 2018 at 03:05 PM Author: sol
Oh, thank you.
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Nov 05, 2018 at 03:47 PM Author: merc

Otis is an American company.

I have seen here in Canada, some from each of the major manufacturers of elevators (lifts) : Otis, Thyssen-Krupp, Schindler, Koné. There are many others, but most were acquired by one of the major ones some time ago.

OK, thanks. We have all of them here. Lifts (elevators) are maybe so complicated devices (safety, reliability, ...) that only a few manufactures can make them.
When you say Koné - do you mean these?

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Nov 05, 2018 at 06:01 PM Author: sol

When you say Koné - do you mean these?

Yes.

Elevators are indeed complicated machines and they are very expensive as they are practically custom made for each installation. Not to mention hidden costs such as insurance. Small startups are not worth the trouble and it’s like other fields, the big ones acquire the smaller ones hence the limited amount of manufacturers.
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Nov 06, 2018 at 03:22 AM Author: migette1
Yes Kone are tied up with Toshiba partners and shown on Y/T a video showing both names on one of their lifts. We in UK lost all of our manufacturers ( most ) thru takeovers etc. we did make very good products that I remember when much younger, Who remembers the Express test tower at Northampton, this was a GEC company....now gone or under United Technologes ( Otis )....how things have changed.

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Nov 06, 2018 at 06:09 AM Author: sol
Lift installations being very expensive, they are not replaced often. When an old lift in an otherwise good building needs too much work to keep going, the building owner often chooses a less expensive update instead of a completely new installation. When doing this, they can choose a different manufacturer to do the update. By update, it usually means the control mechanism, which is often banks of relays that are replaced with computers. In the process, they often change the fixtures because the old ones have an outdated look, parts are hard to find and increasingly needed, key switches no longer work properly or new fixtures work better with the new computers. If they choose to update, it is not uncommon to find different manufacturer names on the control panel and on the elevator itself.

In my alma mater, there is an older Otis elevator that has been updated about 25 years ago. The control panel is Dover (which was a small manufacturer absorbed by Thyssen-Krupp). This was done to try to sort out different manufacturers on campus. The first one to be installed is a Montgomery (absorbed by Koné). The second was the Otis. The third and fourth are Dover. They retained the services of Dover for maintenance, hence the update of the Otis. The Montgomery is still going I think, I haven't been in that building for some years now. Of course, the maintenance is now done by Thyssen-Krupp because of the mergers.

You are correct that Toshiba and Koné have a relationship, but two names on a single elevator is not necessarily an indication the two companies are affiliated.
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Nov 06, 2018 at 06:25 AM Author: dor123
At Azrieli Haifa mall, they simply renovated the existing elevator, and replaced the controller, rather than replacing the whole elevator.

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230V, 50hz country.

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Nov 06, 2018 at 06:42 AM Author: rjluna2
The elevators (lifts) where I worked was recently renovated. From what I saw that they just refaced inside each car with new wall, floor, ceiling and new control module. They switched from incandescent light bulb which I posted at Korean Made S6 BA15d Clear Bulbs to LEDs. They even changed the chimes. Some area where I work are still has the original elevators (lifts) when they build it new in 1989.

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Nov 06, 2018 at 10:32 AM Author: migette1
my bad English, What I meant was the same lift 2 cars perhaps a double decker showing different fixtures one Toshiba the other Kone. Cannot explain clearer...check out diesel ducy on Y/T.

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Nov 06, 2018 at 07:23 PM Author: Cole D.
I rode in an Otis elevator with a display just like this, today when I went to the election supervisor office. The county building was built in 1997 if that helps with the date. The elevator was so quiet, I was afraid it had gotten stuck in transit!
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