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Well, the exploding GE halogens are still out there!!! This is the second time this happened to me, this time with a clear Hungary made one!

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Jan 10, 2016 at 06:09 PM Author: Flurofan96
Ohhhhhhh Shoe!!

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Jan 10, 2016 at 06:15 PM Author: RCM442
Never again will I use GE halogen bulbs, seeing as how no matter the country of origin, they still seem to explode!!

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Jan 10, 2016 at 07:10 PM Author: Alights
No more General Explosion halogen !
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Jan 10, 2016 at 07:14 PM Author: RCM442
LOL! Good one! Still, don't have any more of these in my house, and don't plan on buying more of these! I'll stick with the other brands, and LED bulbs from now on, those don't explode!

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Jan 10, 2016 at 07:16 PM Author: Flurofan96
You should report this issue to GE tell them that they need to pull their thumb out to rectify this issue

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Jan 10, 2016 at 07:18 PM Author: RCM442
From what I am told it is because they are using a hard glass capsule instead of a quartz one, from what I've heard they possibly have switched, but I really don't know if they did

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Jan 10, 2016 at 07:37 PM Author: BlueHalide
You can force them to explode by simply thumping on the lamp while its operating, causing the filament to stick to the capsule wall, they always explode within an hour, ive done this to plenty of GE halogens, weak (thin) capsule glass
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Jan 10, 2016 at 07:39 PM Author: RCM442
The filament touches the capsule anyway as they age! No support, this is more then likely why the other one I had exploded in the same way...

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Jan 10, 2016 at 08:06 PM Author: streetlight98
Use Sylvania halogens. Never had any quality issues with them. Plus they're made in the USA.

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Jan 10, 2016 at 08:08 PM Author: RCM442
Yup, I've had them here, good stuff, got some Philips ecovantage bulbs in use right now

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Jan 10, 2016 at 08:44 PM Author: ace100w120v
BOOM! I guess CFLs aren't the only ones with nasty EOL modes!
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Jan 10, 2016 at 10:43 PM Author: Solanaceae
I got Chinese GE halogens designed to replace 100 watt Incan bulbs and one lasted three years and slipped peacefully but the other went boom outside. Thankfully it was in an enclosed porch lite.

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Jan 11, 2016 at 12:08 PM Author: Medved
The hard glass vs quartz alone can not cause the explosions. I'm convinced by just swapping the material back, the bulbs will explode in the same way.
I would agree one of the contributors is the lack of the filament support and consequent filament touching the wall (and consequently the rest of the filament overheating, breaking and causing an arc). Capsules I've seen in Europe have the filament supported in 3 spots at least, that means each about 60V, so an equivalent would be at least one support for a 120V model.

But the direct cause for the explosion is the arc and that may happen even at normal EOL. So it means these lamps lack the arc protection (fusing,...) and that is the main cause of that safety problem.

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Jan 11, 2016 at 12:10 PM Author: RCM442
So a fuse wire that doesn't work, or doesn't exist causes this? Interesting!

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Jan 11, 2016 at 12:14 PM Author: Medved
I would expect that...
Well, it is not that trivial to make a working fuse wire for voltages above ~30V or so - as you will face problems with and arc "replacing" the just evaporated fuse wire, but there are tricks to do that in a manner compatible with the capsule assembly process (so cheap), but most likely these are patented by the other companies...

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Jan 11, 2016 at 12:17 PM Author: RCM442
The Sylvania ones have supported filaments and so do the Philips ecovantage capsules at least the ones I have here.

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Jan 11, 2016 at 06:06 PM Author: Medved
Well, both fuse sections, as well as supports mean extra losses (fuses made of a filament section burried into the glass exhibit resistance of that piece of filament wire, the supports carry some heat away from the filament), so you have to either live with worse efficacy/life trade off, or use more advanced design of the lamp chemistry to gain it back.
So I see it as quite likely the GE wants to just show off "they offer the best efficacy" (or at least they are not worse than competitors, while in fact they do not have that advanced technology) by just getting rid of the losses from the supports and fuses.
I smell something like a "Dieselgate" there...

Anyway what is very strange: The modern hard glass capsules are supposed to operate at an atmospheric pressure or below. With that there shouldn't be enough energy in the capsule gas fill to burst the outer, even when the capsule disintegrates. How it come, it is the second time the outer got smashed?

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Jan 13, 2016 at 01:14 PM Author: CEB1993
That looks awful, hope it didn't cause any injuries or other damage. I'm trying to be careful with my halogen GE's, only using them of outer glass isn't scratched or chipped or if the inside capsule is not crooked. I've seen some with crooked capsules that could contribute to the sagging filament issue or uneven heating of the bulb.

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Jan 13, 2016 at 01:16 PM Author: RCM442
The capsule wasn't crooked in this one, no I didn't get hurt, and nothing was damaged so it's all good!

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I put two of these in two outdoor enclosed lanterns beside the front door last December. One just burnt out this week (lasting only 3 months). I may replace both with some clear 43 watt Sylvanias. I've never had a Sylvania halogen burn out before its rated life. The European capsules in the newest Sylvania halogens have filaments that are supported and more durable looking. I like the look of the American capsules better, but I know that the European ones won't bend over time (capsule explosion hazard) and may hold up to vibrations from the opening and closing door a bit better.

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Mar 23, 2016 at 01:06 PM Author: streetlight98
I've had bad luck with GE halogens (by the batch, some batches are fine but more are bad than not). I've had great luck with the Sylvania halogens. They have a shorter life than the old school halogens (a trade-off of the higher efficiency) but I'd say they're comparable to the life of a standard 1000-hour incandescent. They don't like vibration, as the filament is totally unsupported.

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Jul 11, 2016 at 09:01 AM Author: CEB1993
Hi RCM442, what was the wattage on this bulb? I'm interested because it would seem higher wattage bulbs (53 or 72 watts) get hotter and thus are more likely to have a violent explosion than the cooler running 29 or 43 watt bulbs.

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Jul 11, 2016 at 09:49 AM Author: RCM442
This was a 53 watt lamp.

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Where was this one in use?

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I have never bought or used halogen bulbs.


I honestly only started using them around the incandescent bans, as LEDs were not good enough for me at the time, and I hate the dingy light from spiral CFLs. I was able to use 53w halogens in place of 60w incandescent, gaining an additional 300 lumens and saving 7 watts per lamp. Pretty much a lateral move but the boost in output was nice. Now I use 75w and 100w equivalent LEDs.

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I used to use the 43w clear ones in my traffic signals to save a bit of energy compared to an 69w incandescent signal lamp but I switched over to LED filaments for that. The halogen lamps didn't really last long run horizontally.
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Jun 05, 2020 at 05:51 AM Author: streetlight98

I used to use the 43w clear ones in my traffic signals to save a bit of energy compared to an 69w incandescent signal lamp but I switched over to LED filaments for that. The halogen lamps didn't really last long run horizontally.


I noticed the same thing with horizontally ran halogens.

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