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I had to replace the telephone system in my house last year after 20 years. Constant failures made it necessary, and the providers phased out the 2 lines/one Internet connection. Now it is VoIP. As the system allows the existance of digital and analogue phones I wanted to know if the technicians could bring to life an apparatus from the 1950 (or even before). They did. The only problem is the mechanic bell inside. The voltage of 60V is not supplied anymore, so the phone rings poorly. I can also not use it to connect calls. But I can make outside call if I feel nostalgic. The modern phoneset is the only one that is not connected to the system via two wires. It is connected to the computersystem and can be operated over a dashboard on my computerscreen. If I mark a phone number on a homepage and press the F12 key the call is made. Works fine but I doubt it will last another 20 years.

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Manufacturer:Old: CN (Czeija & Nissl) Made in Vienna/Austria New: Agfeo, Made in Germany (!!!)

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Jun 14, 2020 at 04:17 PM Author: lbulb5000
That a pretty nice classic phone. I have c couple of old phones from the 40s lying around as well as an avocado green phone from the 70s. Did the phone have those old lines that need to be hardwired did it have a modern connector?
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Jun 16, 2020 at 12:38 AM Author: Headgardener
The connection inside the phone was and is again made with U-shaped cable lugs. I would have preferred to use a fabric insulated round or twisted cable, but the connection to the house system is made with RJ11 western jacks and/or Austrian TAE Phone plugs (They are different to the German ones, which causes trouble sometimes as you need adaptors. It is only a matter of 2 wires, but they need to be in the right position. The old phone has now a cheap plastic cable as it is impossible to fix a Western/RJ11 or RJ45 plug to this kind of wire. I spent hours searching for a solution since I try only to use twistet fabric (silk or cotton) covered wires. The techicians said that is was so special working in my house as everything is so oldfashioned. Yesss!
Concerning your phone: Bring them back to life. If possible...
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Jun 27, 2020 at 02:58 PM Author: sox35
Not difficult to get this to work on VoIP. You need a pulse-to-tone converter like this. Most VoIP equipment should deliver enough ringing voltage though, I'm surprised you're not getting it, you may need to tweak some settings.

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Aug 01, 2020 at 02:52 PM Author: Headgardener

Not difficult to get this to work on VoIP. You need a pulse-to-tone converter like this. Most VoIP equipment should deliver enough ringing voltage though, I'm surprised you're not getting it, you may need to tweak some settings.

It is still tricky. The telephone system operates towards the exterior as VoIP but inside the house there are 21 telephone extensions of which 18 ring on incoming calls. Some are analog some digital. Some of the wires used are over 60 years old. Is is quite an overkill for a private house, but that is how it was and I prefer to keep things a close to how the were before. One improvement is the Phone dashboard on my computer monitor. This is really clever. The central and the phones are from the German company AGFEO. All is Made in Germany. Unbelieavable!
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Aug 01, 2020 at 03:00 PM Author: sox35
That's not bad..! We don't have that many, but it's only a small place. We're waiting delivery on a Cisco SPA9000 IP PBX, which we'll be using with SPA508G phones. The incoming landline just goes to the standalone fax machine, but I may add a PSTN gateway at some point so we can use the line for outgoing calls if we need to.

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Aug 01, 2020 at 03:10 PM Author: Headgardener

That's not bad..! We don't have that many, but it's only a small place. We're waiting delivery on a Cisco SPA9000 IP PBX, which we'll be using with SPA508G phones. The incoming landline just goes to the standalone fax machine, but I may add a PSTN gateway at some point so we can use the line for outgoing calls if we need to.

Mentioning the Fax: Sending a Fax to Germany is a lottery, one to Switzerland nearly impossible. I would need a special computer programm (payable monthly) In fact I rarely use the fax. The technicians said that problem is widely present. But fax is outdated... Do you remember BTX?
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Aug 01, 2020 at 03:13 PM Author: sox35
We don't really use it much, it's simply that the printer/copier/scanner device we bought a couple of years or so ago had it built in, so we just connected it. It stops junk calls on that line, anyway

I don't recall what BTX stands for, it's vaguely familiar, refresh my brain cell

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Aug 01, 2020 at 03:22 PM Author: Headgardener

We don't really use it much, it's simply that the printer/copier/scanner device we bought a couple of years or so ago had it built in, so we just connected it. It stops junk calls on that line, anyway

I don't recall what BTX stands for, it's vaguely familiar, refresh my brain cell

It was launched in 1982 in Austria and it was in interactive system operated from your TV-post. When I started my studies at the University of Economics we hat to use such a system from terminals within the Campus grounds. The queues in front of theses terminals were unbelieavable and the system was frequently down due to overuse. The University was laid out for 8.000 students and we were 25.000. Now everything is via Internet. The drop out rate is still very high, but there are still no tuition fees.
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Aug 01, 2020 at 03:38 PM Author: sox35
Ah, ok. Don't think we ever had anything like that here. We did have a dial-up system called Prestel, operated by the Post Office, who ran the monopoly phone system back then. It was painfully slow (1200/75), required a dedicated terminal, and was expensive. Not surprisingly it was never taken up in large numbers, unlike the French Minitel system where they literally gave the terminals away. I believe it was still running until relatively recently.

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