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Dover Traditional buttons

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These are on an old Dover elevator at a hospital. I think the fire service key, fire service indicator, and the call cancel button were made by Epco and added later.

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Sep 25, 2019 at 07:32 PM Author: HPSM250R2
Ah so we have an elevator enthusiast here on L-G. Maybe you can answer a question I am curious about. Does the door close button actually function in elevators? I push them almost every time I use an elevator and the doors do not seem to close when I push the button. Every time.
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Sep 25, 2019 at 07:56 PM Author: Fluorescent05

Ah so we have an elevator enthusiast here on L-G. Maybe you can answer a question I am curious about. Does the door close button actually function in elevators? I push them almost every time I use an elevator and the doors do not seem to close when I push the button. Every time.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If it has 2 doors, you have to push the right door close button.

Don't be fooLED, T8 IS the worst thing to do to a magnetic T12 fixture.

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Sep 25, 2019 at 08:01 PM Author: HPSM250R2

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If it has 2 doors, you have to push the right door close button.


Ah ok. Maybe some places disconnect it so passengers can't close it on other people wanting to get it.
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Sep 25, 2019 at 09:25 PM Author: RyanF40T12
There were some old 70s vintage elevators (up to code with cables and pullies and brakes and what not) with the old style buttons that would still work and light up. LOVED being around them. They were square style buttons and not the round ones.

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Sep 26, 2019 at 03:45 AM Author: sol
The main purpose of the door close button is to work with the independent service function. When enabled (with appropriate key switch), it removes that particular elevator from the call system of the elevator bank (or cancels floor calls in single elevator operation). The car will not respond to any calls other than on the car's panel and remain at that floor with doors open. To register a call, you hold down the floor button and the door close button until the door has closed, and then the elevator will travel to that floor uninterrupted, and the doors will open and stay that way until another call is registered in the same fashion. Independent service can be cancelled with the same key.

In the older elevators (with relay banks), the door close button, I believe, was almost always functional. In electronic, computer controlled installations, it is not always programmed to work in normal service, only in independent service.
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Sep 26, 2019 at 04:57 AM Author: Fluorescent05

There were some old 70s vintage elevators (up to code with cables and pullies and brakes and what not) with the old style buttons that would still work and light up. LOVED being around them. They were square style buttons and not the round ones.

What did the buttons look like? Do you have a picture? I could probably identify them if you did.

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Sep 26, 2019 at 09:30 PM Author: RyanF40T12
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Sep 27, 2019 at 12:38 AM Author: icefoglights
Door close buttons can have different functions in different elevators or modes of operation. As mentioned before, if the elevator is in IS mode, the door stays open on the floor it's sitting on until the door closed button is pushed (in the case of the last IS elevator I used, it had to be pushed and held until the door closed). In some systems, after boarding, the door closed button will immediately close the doors after boarding. Another common setup, is where the door closed disables the outside call button. In this case, if someone walks up as the door is closing and pushes the button, the elevator would ignore the call button, continue closing the door, and continue to it's destination.

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Sep 27, 2019 at 04:56 AM Author: Fluorescent05
First one: Otis pre Lexan
Second one: Otis square touch buttons (not incandescent, had a special 5 pin touch/neon tube inside)
Third one: Probably an old Otis floor indicator

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Mainly the electrical side of things


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Nov 23, 2019 at 11:47 AM Author: sox35
I got hold of one of those service keys for the lifts (elevators) in one building I worked in. I *hate* sharing them (I get claustrophobic in a small space with several people) so it was useful to have..!

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Nov 23, 2019 at 11:48 AM Author: Fluorescent05
On second thought, I think these are late 1960s Dover classic buttons. The call stations are Epco inchline.

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Nov 23, 2019 at 12:07 PM Author: Fluorescent05

I got hold of one of those service keys for the lifts (elevators) in one building I worked in. I *hate* sharing them (I get claustrophobic in a small space with several people) so it was useful to have..!

You used the fire service key to call the elevator?

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Nov 23, 2019 at 12:12 PM Author: sox35

You used the fire service key to call the elevator?

It wasn't a fire service key, it was an override key that just locked the lift out of the common call button system. As I said I can't comfortably share the small space with other people. I had to press the call button the same as anybody else and wait until there was an empty one, then once inside use the key so I could travel to my floor without getting stopped in between.

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Nov 23, 2019 at 01:29 PM Author: Fluorescent05

It wasn't a fire service key, it was an override key that just locked the lift out of the common call button system. As I said I can't comfortably share the small space with other people. I had to press the call button the same as anybody else and wait until there was an empty one, then once inside use the key so I could travel to my floor without getting stopped in between.

So you used the independent service key to take the elevator out of service then put it back in normal service when you got out?

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Nov 23, 2019 at 01:30 PM Author: sox35

So you used the independent service key to take the elevator out of service then put it back in normal service when you got out?

Yes, that's right.

Ria in Aberdeen
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Nov 23, 2019 at 03:34 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Elevator in my high school had buttons similar to these, they would glow red when pressed. It was a hydraulic lift and there was 4 floors, B ,1 ,2 ,3 and the car had the single slab door configuration but there was two of these, a rear one and front one, Basement opened on the rear. Hall buttons needed a key to unlock the button or else the buttons light would just blink when pressed and not call the lift. To get a key you had to have a medical reason to get one from the office.

Of course I still figured out that i could stick a small padlock key i had for my bike in the key hole and give it a jiggle and it would unlock. I used the elevator like this all the time when no one was looking lol. Getting caught would be a 2 week suspension which I kinda hoped for.... but the teachers that did catch me knew me and didn't report me. I caused a panic for the administration once because I didnt relock the hall buttons and they thought someone stole a key but they never did know anything about me and my own key


The basement was finished and had classes and the cafeteria in it, was a real pain finishing lunch and having a class on the 3rd floor with all those stairs
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