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I was out trash picking in my grandparents' neighborhood and I found this and a preheat F30T12 fish tank light. Of course some numbskull "electrician" had to go out of their way to snip the wires very short, which really pisses me off.

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Sep 28, 2020 at 08:59 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
They cut them short so they would have more wire to use when installing the new ballast. Also , some of the retrofit LEDs actually say in the instructions to "cut existing ballast wires close to the old ballast and remove the ballast from the fixture"

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Sep 28, 2020 at 09:08 PM Author: Fluorescent05

They cut them short so they would have more wire to use when installing the new ballast. Also , some of the retrofit LEDs actually say in the instructions to "cut existing ballast wires close to the old ballast and remove the ballast from the fixture"

This one was inside a fixture and the sockets were still there too!

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Sep 28, 2020 at 09:10 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
In that case they were probably attempting to keep anyone from using it again .

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Sep 28, 2020 at 09:12 PM Author: Fluorescent05

In that case they were probably attempting to keep anyone from using it again .

Why though?

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Sep 28, 2020 at 09:19 PM Author: wide-lite 1000
Dunno .

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Sep 28, 2020 at 09:26 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
If you have some of the same kind of wire and some heat shrink tubing, you should be able to solder the new leads onto it. I strip all the wires and bend the solid core into a little hook and hook it into the one coming from the ballast, then I squeeze it with pliers and apply flux/solder to it and slip a shrink tube over it.

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Sep 28, 2020 at 09:28 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
Nice! Does it work? Will you post a picture of the F30T12 preheat fish tank light you found?

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Sep 28, 2020 at 09:53 PM Author: Fluorescent05

Nice! Does it work? Will you post a picture of the F30T12 preheat fish tank light you found?

It works very well! The F30 light is at my grandparents' house. I might go over tomorrow or Wednesday and take a picture of it. It has a Robertson S40BP ballast, a plastic-cased Hemco starter, and an (I think) Philips-made F30T12 freshwater aquarium lamp in it. Does anyone know if this lamp will work as a grow light?

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Sep 29, 2020 at 12:00 AM Author: joseph_125
I think when some people retrofit to T8 they snip the ballast wires close to the ballast and use wirenuts to splice the new ballast in. Especially if you're doing a large retrofit job with hundreds of lights.

Short leads aren't that big of a problem though, a easy fix with some wire and a soldering iron. Alternately you can use those UK style terminal blocks to splice new wires to.
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Sep 29, 2020 at 06:54 AM Author: rjluna2
Is there a date stamp under the ballast?

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Sep 29, 2020 at 07:04 AM Author: Fluorescent05

Is there a date stamp under the ballast?

A 00, January 2000.

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Sep 29, 2020 at 07:51 AM Author: rjluna2
Thanks, Zack

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Oct 05, 2020 at 07:55 PM Author: streetlight98
This is a 0.65A ballast, so it would considerably underdrive 40W lamps. As for cutting the leads short, at work when we remove ballasts we typically cut the old ballast wires within 6" or so of the sockets. Replacement ballasts have plenty of wire on them. But then we snip the wires right where the exit the ballast and throw the wire in the scrap bin at work. The ballasts themselves go in a crate and when the crate is full the boss takes them to the scrap yard with the wire and gets his 5 cents a pound for them lol.

Usually when we are replacing ballasts it's because they're bad though, so I'm not too concerned. When the ballasts still work, it's usually the entire fixture that's being replaced, and usually an entire room/building of fixtures. In that case I'll usually save a few ballasts if they're decent makes/models and perhaps save a fixture or two if they're anything special. My boss sometimes looks at it the wrong way when I take old stuff home so I try not to be excessive about it and only bring home big stuff if it's really worth it. But stuff like fluorescent ballasts I'll just load into my lunchbox or empty one of my tool bags and fill that with ballasts lol.

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Oct 05, 2020 at 08:08 PM Author: funkybulb
I like to open up the balllast and replace the wires and put them back together

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Oct 05, 2020 at 08:15 PM Author: LampLover

This is a 0.65A ballast, so it would considerably underdrive 40W lamps. As for cutting the leads short, at work when we remove ballasts we typically cut the old ballast wires within 6" or so of the sockets. Replacement ballasts have plenty of wire on them. But then we snip the wires right where the exit the ballast and throw the wire in the scrap bin at work. The ballasts themselves go in a crate and when the crate is full the boss takes them to the scrap yard with the wire and gets his 5 cents a pound for them lol.

Usually when we are replacing ballasts it's because they're bad though, so I'm not too concerned. When the ballasts still work, it's usually the entire fixture that's being replaced, and usually an entire room/building of fixtures. In that case I'll usually save a few ballasts if they're decent makes/models and perhaps save a fixture or two if they're anything special. My boss sometimes looks at it the wrong way when I take old stuff home so I try not to be excessive about it and only bring home big stuff if it's really worth it. But stuff like fluorescent ballasts I'll just load into my lunchbox or empty one of my tool bags and fill that with ballasts lol.


I don't deal with ballasts everyday but when I toss a bad one I cut the wires flush with the casing and write "BAD" in a black sharpie and toss it in the bin. I only write bad as a courtesy because there are other people (though not many) who like electrical and lighting things like me so if they happen to find it they won't go through the trouble of wiring (although this does not stop them from trying but I write bad anyway) it up and finding it is a bad ballast. Also 18AWG solid wire is always nice to have around as if you have to buy it you either have to get a full roll or $$$ per FT a full roll is not that cheap especially when you need 6 different colors of it (black/White/Green/Red/Blue/Yellow)

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Oct 05, 2020 at 08:37 PM Author: streetlight98
Yeah I don't get to work with them a ton either. Probably more than three quarters of the stuff we do is new construction residential.

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Oct 05, 2020 at 08:53 PM Author: joseph_125
Yeah I grab most bad ballasts I find that still have full length leads on them to recover the wire. They don't sell 18g solid wire by the foot here so I either have to buy a roll per colour or use salvaged ballast wire. If I was wiring up a bunch of fluorescent fixtures I'd probably buy the 6 rolls needed but for the small number that I have the salvaged wire in enough.
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Oct 05, 2020 at 09:11 PM Author: High Intensity

This is a 0.65A ballast, so it would considerably underdrive 40W lamps...

Actually, that's for 34w F40T12s (F40T12ES), just below it, it says F40T12 .75A. On the datasheet for this ballast, it lists the ballast factor for 40w F40T12s at .94 (which is roughly 38w per lamp IIRC).

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Oct 06, 2020 at 08:36 PM Author: streetlight98
Good catch. Normally the standard lamps are listed first.

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Oct 06, 2020 at 09:56 PM Author: Fluorescent05

Good catch. Normally the standard lamps are listed first.

I don't know why the ES ones are listed first either.

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