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Westinghouse F16T8 / Cool White | 16 Watts. | 2 foot long.
Westinghouse F16T8 / Cool White | 16 Watts. | 2 foot long.

Sylvania F30T8 / Gold | 30 Watts. | 3 foot long.

Westinghouse F??T12 / Green | 25 Watts. | 2 2/3 foot long.

Sylvania F15T8 / Pink | 15 Watts. | 1.5 foot long.
Sylvania F15T8 / Pink | 15 Watts. | 1.5 foot long.

All new old stock. Too bad the sleeves crumbled when I grabbed them.

The F16 and the 25W T12 are odd lengths and wattages. Wonder what they were used for...

The picture on the right is to give you an idea of their length compared to the standard F30 Gold.

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Mar 01, 2010 at 10:53 PM Author: icefoglights
I have a couple of old Sylvania F25T12s. I think they were used in certaian appliances. I see new GE ones at the hardware store in "Appliance Cool White" sleeves.

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Mar 02, 2010 at 01:08 AM Author: Silverliner
Nice! I figured the vintage of most of your lamps, they are as follows:

Westinghouse F16T8/CW/26: 1st quarter '67
Sylvania 30w Gold: July '56
Westinghouse 25w Green: possibly '54
Sylvania 15w Pink: January '56

Can you tell me how many dots beneath PREHEAT are on the Sylvania F15T8/PK (last lamp on the bottom)?

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Mar 02, 2010 at 02:39 AM Author: Miles
There are two dots. One above the 15W (hidden here) and one under the R of preheat.

WOW! Most of them are fifties bulbs? Crazy to think they have been sitting unused for sixty years..

Thank you very very much for the date information!
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Mar 02, 2010 at 03:13 AM Author: Silverliner
March '59 then! Well there are still NOS bulbs from the 1880s out there! Even crazier eh?

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Mar 02, 2010 at 03:21 AM Author: Miles
Hehe, I'd like to see that!
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Mar 02, 2010 at 05:26 AM Author: jercar954
The 16T8 lamps were used as cooktop lights on ranges. My parents had a Westy electric range from 1967 that used one and when I had to replace it in the later 70's I had to order it from a Westy
warehouse in Yonkers, NY.

The 25T12 lamps were used as cooktop lights and also in vending machines.

Preheat and T-12 fluorescents forever! Down with LED's and instant start T-8 fluorescents.

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Mar 02, 2010 at 08:06 AM Author: DieselNut
I have this one:
http://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1507&pos=43
that I got from a vending machine that was being junked. It was run with a "choke" ballast.

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Mar 02, 2010 at 08:07 AM Author: don93s
Those 16w lamps were also used in clothes washers and dryers as well as soft drink machines.
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Mar 02, 2010 at 11:38 AM Author: icefoglights
I wonder if a residential shop light ballast for 48" 25 watt tubes would be appropriate for those F25 appliance tubes.

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Mar 02, 2010 at 02:55 PM Author: don93s
icefoglights...I doubt a 25w shoplite ballast would work on those because the lamp voltage is different causing them to overdrive and overheat ballast. A four foot 25w is only 25w because it's made to operate at a lower current, but the characteristics (lamp voltage) are still the same as a standard 40w. Thus, both the 33" and the 48" 25w lamps are totally different.

One other thing, strangely enough, are the electrode designs. It is possible that the 33" 25w has similar design as the smaller wattages (15w, 20w)....meaning either PH or Trigger Start and won't work on 'regular' RS properly. I've learned this the hard way before.
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Mar 02, 2010 at 04:01 PM Author: vintagefluorescent
Impressive collection Miles !!!!
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Mar 02, 2010 at 04:10 PM Author: Silverliner
I have a 25w 33" fixture, it has two small chokes like the 14-20w variety. I'll check to see if they are the same thing. You'll need to use a FS-25 starter for F25T12 lamps though.

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Mar 06, 2010 at 09:19 PM Author: don93s
I was in ACE hardware today and noticed that the 25w (GE) came in both 28" and 33". The 28" was $17 and the 33" were $20 each! Whoa!
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