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Philips Master Xtra Polar

Philips Master Xtra Polar


Philips Tube for use in streetlighting

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Manufacturer:Philips
Model Reference:Master TL-D
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Wattage:18 W
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Color Temperature:830

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Jun 13, 2009 at 10:40 AM Author: magslight
Whatīs that? And why is that a tube for a streetlight, have you such a streetlight?
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Jun 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM Author: duluxs
Well, its a development of philips in order to prevent decline of brigtness of fluorescent lamps at cold temperatures outside, which can be a big problem for streetlighting in cold areas.
As you can see on the picture, they put a second tube, made of glass, around the "main" fluorescent tube, so the temperature is higher and it glows brighter even if ists cold outside.
You can use it instead of standard fluorecent tubes, it has two pins on each end.
In my hometown, they began to replace the standard tubes by those ones, mainly in so called "Ansatzleuchten" which were used in most streets. Today they relace them by modern ones an I got some of those tubes
There is also another version which is called Xtreme Polar.
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Jun 13, 2009 at 12:57 PM Author: magslight
Iīve never seen this lamps before, but do you know the fabrication date?
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Jun 13, 2009 at 01:06 PM Author: James
In fact Philips only began offering these quite recently, they took the idea from the original inventor Auralight in Sweden (formerly the Luma factory). This one was made in June 2006. The Auralight tubes are considerably better quality - delivering superior cold starting performance and lifetime - but they are generally somewhat more expensive.

See details including some graphics about the improved low temperature performance at http://www.auralightgroup.com/images/products/productleaflets/international/new_leaflets_feb08/Thermo_INT_tt.pdf
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Jun 13, 2009 at 01:21 PM Author: duluxs
Thanks for that information
Did not know, that philips only was "copying" this idea
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Jun 13, 2009 at 01:25 PM Author: magslight
But real in Sweden this lamps have more sense than in Germany . Thereīs a big difference from the climate.
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Jun 13, 2009 at 01:28 PM Author: duluxs
Just found the data-sheet (could only find it in german):

http://www.lighting.philips.com/de_de/tools_downloads/downloads/datasheets/downloads/tl/master_tld_xtra_polar_sep06.pdf
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Jun 13, 2009 at 01:33 PM Author: magslight
@duluxs: The price isnīt there. Have you knowledge about the price?
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Jun 13, 2009 at 01:36 PM Author: duluxs
@ magslight:
yes, in summer, it makes no problem, of course, but in cold a cold winter, the low temperatures can be a real problem in streetlighting.
This is even a reason, why you can find much more fluroscent tubes in streetlighting in northern germany than in the south of germany. Today they use more HPS lamps in the south of germany because the winter there is normally colder than in the north.

Yes, they are quite expensive:
In wholesale trade they may cost 13-15 Eur
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Jun 13, 2009 at 02:25 PM Author: magslight
Sorry but thatīs not true . I donīt know a city or hicksville without flourescent tubes here in Bavaria. Now they donīt replace the flourescent tubes cause of the climate, instead they couldnīt buy anymore streetlights with flourescent tubes.
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Jun 13, 2009 at 02:33 PM Author: duluxs
Canīt really belive that, because every important manufacturer still offers at least one model of streetlight with fluorescent tubes, even the old so called "Ansatzleuchten" you can find quite often
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Feb 06, 2010 at 02:21 PM Author: magslight
@Roi: Here's such a special lamp.
@duluxs: Ok, and which new models with flourescent tubes are on the market? All are old models. Would you buy for your city streetlights which were already there before more than 30 years?
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Feb 06, 2010 at 11:37 PM Author: Medved
@magslight: If the lantern proved to be good one, i would even prefer it, as it passed the test of real life.
Provided, then the manufacturer want to manufacture it for next 30years too (to not have problems with spare parts). But i think the second condition would be met only, if much more officials would think like me and not ask "for the cheapest at any expense".

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Feb 07, 2010 at 09:58 AM Author: DieselNut
I have some lamps similar to that. They came out of a frozen food cooler. I will take and post pics. I am such a packrat! I never would have imagined there were so many enthusiasts out there! This site is addictive. It is fun seeing what yall have collected up. I am working on sharing some of my interesting collection (almost totally fluorescent).

Preheat Fluorescents forever!
I love diesel engines, rural/farm life and vintage lighting!

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