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Greened out MV in Paris Metro station

Greened out MV in Paris Metro station

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This is a very greened out mercury vapour in the Paris Metro. I don't recall exactly which station, although it could be Cité. If someone recognizes this station, please let me know and I will update the information.

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Lamp Type:Mercury vapour
Shape/Finish:ED
Fixture
Fixture Type:Outdoor glass sphere
Ballast Type:Magnetic
Location:Paris Métro ; Cité station ?
Electrical
Voltage:230 volts 50 Hz
Optical
Lumen Efficacy:Not much due to lamp hours

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Mar 01, 2013 at 05:14 PM Author: rlshieldjr
Probably they (Metro staff) will do nothing, unless there is a complaint or is goes out.
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Mar 01, 2013 at 06:24 PM Author: sol
"It still works" is probably their thinking here. Since it still lights, there is no reason to change it. It has gotten dim very gradually, decreasing the chance someone will notice. It will, however, be replaced in the coming years as the entire RATP (Paris transportation autority) plans to go entirely LED.
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Mar 14, 2013 at 03:05 PM Author: Selenium
So, it's Franklin Roosevelt Metro station or Georges V at Champs-Elysées.

Btw, for sure its a HPL Super De Luxe Osram mercury lamp. RATP use since long years this type of lamps for the comfort of lighting.
But last few years they use HPL standard lamps.
Exterior lighting has never been well maintained. Many stations have greenish MV and lamps are replaced after a long time after they off !
I have a good example of HPS lamps cycling since 6 years !

Relamping in interior is well and doing every 2 years.

The experimental station in led is Censier Daubenton, but the light is glow and not secure for people, i think the lamps are kinda cheap, and it was in 2009.

Recently its Metro signboard which where passed in Led. Result is white and no homogen light.

The first station in leds will be Franklin Roosevelt, in april. For 2017 entirely 301 metro stations and 66 suburban stations for 250 000 lighting points will be replaced, T5 28, 35w for a lot. T8 and T12 next.
Philips is the winner of this new lighting.

I wonder what type of exterior lighting will be installed...

The Cité station is lit by CFL in globe luminaries
Préviously it was mercury.

Also, the security lighting is in Led now.
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Mar 14, 2013 at 09:30 PM Author: sol
I noticed the Cité lighting was changed from the last time I visited (2009). I have found some attestations on the Internet about the Cité station being special as it was lighted with green light, especially on Flickr : « Haaaa j'adore ce vert de fond de bouteille et ces grosses boules chaleureuses de lumière.... » (seen here). However, when I visited, it seemed to be only plain old mercury vapour. Today, if you look closely, you can make out the shape of the CFL lamps in the globes, and the colour temperature is about 3500K.

The security lighting was formerly 8WT5, but as you said, it is now LED.

As for the station in the picture, I thought about it again, and according to the order of the pictures in the camera, it doesn't make sense that it would be Cité. Franklin Roosevelt or Georges V makes more sense.

I don't remember well the lighting at Censier Daubenton, but from what I remember, it wasn't the best.

Anyways, thanks for the detailed info.
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Mar 15, 2013 at 01:39 PM Author: Selenium
You're welcome.
I travel every day by the Cité station.
Before it was old Philips globe, now its the new cheap Philips Urbana.
For me its ridiculous to see these globes for a station in a historic district ! But they wanted to remind the Cité in France, like popular district lighted with these cheap luminaries.
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Mar 16, 2013 at 08:27 PM Author: sol
Oh, so they changed the globes when they replaced the mercury with the CFL ? That would explain the "transparency" of the new globes which let the shape of the CFL be seen through them. I guess the RATP is no different than other businesses, they take the least expensive, and pay less attention to detail when refitting or modernizing lighting (or other things).
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Mar 18, 2013 at 03:39 PM Author: Selenium
So, i see you want some informations
For security reasons RATP change regulary these globes at Cite station (they are mounted upside down). I dont know when but never every 10 or 20 years like in a street !

After, for maintenance the lowest prices are privilegied. Every 2 years they change the 250 000 lamps. And its never the same manufacturers, last year, it was GE and Sylvania. Sometimes its Osram or Philips.
Lighting of suburban A line (red) are very old, the same since 45 ans in MV ! Some new lanterns are old Z1 or Z2 and Philips Malaga.
Interesting to see, they dont respect the type of lamps in it. MV in HPS lanterns for example !

For the modernizing works its different. The renovated metros stations are completly modified in lighting as you see i think.
Since 2000 its Philips designed luminaries were chosen. All in T5 28 and 35w.
Its a special applications and design for RATP.
But for new or renovated stations the employed floods are the cheapest italian brand, SBP.
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