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Integrated CMH Par Lamps

Integrated CMH Par Lamps

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The Philips one lights up for about half an hour but cycles.
The GE tries hard to ignite but won't.

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Light Information

Manufacturer:Philips & GE
Model Reference:Mastercolor Integrated 25W / GE CMHI23PAR38FL
Lamp
Lamp Type:Integrated ballast CMH
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Wattage:Both are 20w lamps (25w & 23w)
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Factory Location:Mexico & Hungary respectively

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Jun 12, 2016 at 07:34 PM Author: Lumex120
Try replacing the CMH lamps inside it with new 20w lamps. Sounds like the lamps in there are EOL and the ballast is fine.

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Jun 12, 2016 at 09:14 PM Author: BlueHalide
No the lamp always outlives the ballast on these, especially the CDM ones. I used to relamp a shop that used about a hundred of these in their tracks and recessed cans. The ones running completely base up (in the recessed cans) always died before the ones running somewhat horizontal in the track lights. They would either cycle or burn a dim green partial discharge. Upon taking some of these apart and testing just the arctube on a separate supply I found that every single failure was the integrated ballast in these (which looks almost exactly like a CFL ballast). The lamps all had reasonably good life in them had the ballast not failed. The Sylvania "powerball integrated" version of these uses a quartz burner and in those the ballast usually outlives the lamp, but I think thats solely due to the fact that quartz MH is rated about half the life of CDM.
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Jun 13, 2016 at 12:20 AM Author: lights*plus
I opened the GE lamp. It's a surprisingly well made integrated-CMH par. I'll try to upload a pic but the connecting wires are short and won't allow an easy exploded view.

The tube of the lamp is really black with a variety of soot colors! The circuit board on the rear seems ok. I'm not sure if I can install another 20w lamp, but I sure will try the ballast. As I don't have a 20w lamp, I'll test with a 35w CMH one.
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Jun 13, 2016 at 01:30 AM Author: dor123
The US Philips Master Color Integrated PAR38, uses a HF ballast like the CFLs, to simplify it and reduce its size.

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230-240V, 50hz country.

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Jun 13, 2016 at 07:33 AM Author: Flurofan96
Man these CMH reflector lamps look decent I'd also love to have one of these but I don't have a fixture application for one- maybe I can put it in my IKEA floor uplighter

I will give LEDisease a taste of my shoe

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Jun 13, 2016 at 10:48 PM Author: HU112
Using these lamps for uplighting should be the best way to prolong the lamp life

No more cheapy crappy Chinese junk, please.

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