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Got 43 Watt bulbs at Publix, And 72 Watt bulbs at Ace Hardware.

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Manufacturer:GE
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Lamp Type:Halogen
Base:Medium
Electrical
Wattage:43/72
Optical
Color Rendering Index:100

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Jun 05, 2016 at 12:52 PM Author: ace100w120v
4-packs of crystal clears exist? I didn't know that...
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Jun 05, 2016 at 12:56 PM Author: wattMaster
No, This just looks like a 4-pack because I put them together to photograph.
It's actually 2 packs of 2 bulbs, Not a single 4-pack.

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Jun 05, 2016 at 04:13 PM Author: rjluna2
Are those Hungarian bulbs?

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Jun 05, 2016 at 04:15 PM Author: wattMaster
Yes

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Jun 05, 2016 at 04:20 PM Author: rjluna2
Cheers

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Jun 05, 2016 at 06:25 PM Author: Globe Collector
The one on the right depicts a single-ended hard glass halogen capsule....I assume the lamp inside has a double ended fused silica capsule and the picture of it is centre-left in your image line-up?

If these are from Hungary they will be from the Nagykanisza plant down hear the border with Coratia.

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Jun 05, 2016 at 06:37 PM Author: rjluna2
Sometimes the package doesn't show the actual capsule which it is in the box.

For the record, wattMaster, I recommended that you present the package and the light bulb together like the one I presented posted at General Electric Crystal Clear 43 Watts. This will tell us the whole story of the bulb and the package

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Jun 05, 2016 at 06:44 PM Author: streetlight98
Maybe these are better but the Chinese GE halogens are horrendous. The Sylvania halogens are good. I have several in use here and they all have done well. We had some GEs and they all failed prematurely and dimmed out really bad. Some members here have had the Chinese GE halogens explode!

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Jun 05, 2016 at 07:42 PM Author: ace100w120v
Yeah, I've heard some explosive GE halogen stories too, I stopped buying them after that.
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Jun 05, 2016 at 07:44 PM Author: Globe Collector
Mike, when they "dimmed out", did the inner capsule become all plated with a mirror of tungsten or did it blacken rapidly and block the light out?

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Jun 05, 2016 at 07:54 PM Author: ace100w120v
Blackened on the ones I had.
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Jun 05, 2016 at 07:59 PM Author: streetlight98
@ Globe Collector: It was gradually over a year or so. The lamps just got progressively dimmer until the 75W= lamps were dimmer than 40W incandescents.

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Jun 05, 2016 at 08:42 PM Author: wattMaster
I'll have to take better photos eventually.

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Jun 05, 2016 at 10:09 PM Author: Globe Collector
Mike, but did they blacken or did the filament just alter its metallurgy somehow, raising the resistance of the lamp without any blackening.

"ace", Andy, sin't it?, The blackening is caused by nanogram quantities of water left behind in the lamp at tip-off by inexperienced operators or improper gettering.

Mirroring of the bulb walls...sometimes seen in bare linear halogens, is usualy a sign of improper dosing, all the correct things are in there, just in incorrect amounts....this gives rise to tungsten transport down the thermal gradient to the bulb wall. Sometimes it goes the other way...UP the thermal gradient, in this case the cool filament tails soon corrode off and the lamp just fails prematurely, but the bulb wall is nice and clear.

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Jun 06, 2016 at 07:55 AM Author: streetlight98
@ Globe Collector: Yes, the capsule blackened/got silvery. I think the consensus here was that the filament sagged and made contact with the capsule. These lamps were running horizontally.

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Jun 06, 2016 at 08:41 PM Author: Globe Collector
IF the filament sagged, then it either needed support, (which they are reticent to put in because it draws heat from the filament and reduces the efficacy, or if it is a wire support [as opposed to the Osram patent "bulb-pinch"] this can lead to violent arc-out at E.O.L. Otherwise they need to look at the filament metallurgy to help maintain its rigidity when hot or specify a vertical burning position.
It still should have worked passably well, but maybe having part of the filament in a cooler zone near the capsule wall initiated unwanted thermally dependent transport cycles. Still, it sounds to me like they have become lax in both capsule dosing and filament metallurgy.....were the lamps U.S./Canadian or form someplace else?

I have just bought up big in the last of the DJH GLS retrofits here as semiconcuctor is starting to hit the shelves...I purchased a whole heap of Chinese Philips and French Osram...and the French Osrams looked rougher and "crappier"....the reason for this....the workers at the plant in Molsheim know, deep down inside, they will probably be on the Dole queues within a year or so...so they just don't give a damn anymore. (The banner they are carrying translates to "Osram Goes Out"....."The Light Goes Out in Molsheim" if you like....really cool music though. Tou don't really need to understand what they are saying specifically....the overall feel and the numbers in the splash texts are enough.

If you KNOW your job is secure in the long enough term to get your mortgage behind you, you will feel happy, positive and secure, but if you feel you will be on the street next year with the bank still taking Mt Rushmore sized bites out of your bum every month despite non noe coming in at the top.....well need I say any more?

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Jun 06, 2016 at 09:34 PM Author: streetlight98
The GEs with the problems were made in China, so it comes as no surprise that they didn't last lol. The Chinese GE Reveal lamps only last a couple months before blowing out too. The Sylvania halogens all don't have saggy filaments and last awhile (and they're USA-made).

Gosh that's awful! Modern technology is taking away jobs all over. We used to produce virtually all our own lamps here and now many are imported. Sylvania still makes their non-LED products in the USA and GE makes their fluorescent tubes in the USA and I think the Philips Altos are USA-made but virtually everything else is imported, especially newer tech stuff.

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Jun 06, 2016 at 11:41 PM Author: Globe Collector
You know what REALLY worries me.......when the jobs start to move on from China! When they start closing plants there and moving them to India or Nigeria....imagine a huge Chinese city like GuanDong with 60 millon inhabitants and 25% unemployment or greater, like Detroit or Pot Pirie on steroids! That's nearly the population of Australia with a bottle or brick in their hands!
I reckon a few Chinses government officials will be getting sweaty palms then....remember how Julius controlled them, 2000 years ago in Rome....bread and circuses!!

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