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Lights Of America 40 Watt Choke Ballast

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This thing is Microscopic...and when i say Microscopic i do mean TINY!

this came from an LOA Shoplight,the ones that are like Electronic Preheat or something like that.

in case your wondering about the Fixture,thats Long been discarded.

besides 40 Watt F40T12,ive also ran a 40 and 32 Watt Circline with this Choke. (The Latter Making the Little Choke abit Toasty)

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Manufacturer:Lights Of America (LOA)
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Ballast Type:Choke Inductor
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Wattage:40

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Aug 22, 2010 at 01:03 PM Author: streetlight98
More like LOC (Lights of China). Their name lies right to your face!

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Aug 22, 2010 at 01:26 PM Author: form109
i do recall the shoplight housing saying made in China!

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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Aug 22, 2010 at 07:26 PM Author: DieselNut
These were mounted in the ends of the fixture, correct? I had a LOA fixture as a child that had one of these or something similar in each end. It was some type of preheat and the little chokes would make an awful sound at startup. That fixture was about the sorriest one I have ever encountered. It trashed lamps and then trashed itself, as it would no longer start the new lamps. These things HATED a 34 watt lamp more than I do!

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Aug 22, 2010 at 08:09 PM Author: icefoglights
They used a choke and a cap in series with the lamp, and an electronic starter in place of a preheater. The start routine causes both the choke and the cap to buzz.

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Aug 22, 2010 at 08:25 PM Author: form109
dieselnut yes this came out of the shoplight with the chokes on both ends,the fixture came with Two Sylvania F40T12 CWX's,that i Fried eventually (But not with this Choke)

the Capaciator that came in the fixtures packs quite a shock at times,if i wired the other Choke and Cap in Series with 2 Pins and the Lamp was near a Grounded surface,it Provided a LPF Rapid Start type lamp ignition.

If i did this Very Same thing and added a F40T12 Starter in the Equation the Result was a Very Unblink Happy preheat type start (Only End Glow)

you can see this here in a youtube video i made a while back

the Fixture was originally 2 Lamps of course but i made it one lamp.

it is now Disposed of.

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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Aug 24, 2010 at 08:26 PM Author: arcblue
I find the startup on these ballasts to be interesting at times, particularly in cold weather.

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Aug 24, 2010 at 08:49 PM Author: DieselNut
@form109, yessir, that one sounds just like the one I had. My 20 watt LOA striplight sounds similar. I need to photograph it too.

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Aug 24, 2010 at 09:21 PM Author: xmaslightguy
I've got a few of those crappy LOA shoplights with these ballasts. DieselNut is right about the 34w lamps (LOL think what it'd be like with a F32T8)
Doesn't take much to smoke one of those ballasts (nasty smelling stuff too)

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LOL I did a little video earlier this year of one of these shoplights (in very sorry condition)...all beat up, and 2 partially burned ballasts...still lights about half brightness and makes weird buzzing sounds at startup

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Aug 24, 2010 at 09:47 PM Author: form109
i've Ran it a Few times with a F32T8 Circline...it doesn't smell like its cooking but it gets blistering hot after an Hour or so....i had it mounted to a Makeshift fixture shell..so maybe thats why it didnt compleatly Toast itself.

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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Dec 30, 2010 at 11:46 PM Author: Alights
dont let those LOA shoplights run with a bad ballast(its actually a bad SIDAC), they fry the new lamps FAST! i trashed one running an F32T8 lamp and then it trashed the lamp!
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Dec 31, 2010 at 12:28 AM Author: xmaslightguy
Yep, once the ballast goes up in smoke, the thing will still light around half brightness...and it'll kill lamps fairly quickly.

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Dec 31, 2010 at 01:00 AM Author: RCM442
As for being made in China...mine actually says made in USA!

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Dec 31, 2010 at 02:16 AM Author: form109
has anybody found any good use for these outside the LOA Shoplights?

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Dec 31, 2010 at 10:28 PM Author: DieselNut
@form109.... paperweight?

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Jan 02, 2011 at 06:41 AM Author: form109
too light for that.

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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Jan 02, 2011 at 01:47 PM Author: streetlight98
Scrap metal! You'll have enough to but one of those $0.25 gumballs from the gumball machine. I just wished the gumball machines gave out gumball lights for 25 cents. I'd love one of those.

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Jan 02, 2011 at 09:36 PM Author: form109
lol this thing is hardly worth scrapping,more will be spent on gas getting to the scrap yard than this thing is worth haha

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Jan 03, 2011 at 06:37 PM Author: streetlight98
Give it to Oscar the grouch. He loves trash.

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Jan 03, 2011 at 09:40 PM Author: arcblue
Hey, these are the best ballasts ever! I went out of my way to get one of these LOA fixtures again after I trashed all my old ones.

Why?

Because the ballasts are magnetic, simple and repairable! You just break open the plastic case & solder in new capacitors & ignitors. The chokes shouldn't go bad, though I did have one that buzzed constantly (maybe due to the failure of another component rather than the choke itself).

I figured out that in cold weather, the ignitor continues to fire periodically as the lamp tries to warm up, leading to a cool pulsating buzz and extreme lamp pulsating & flickering! Fun to watch!

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Jan 03, 2011 at 10:32 PM Author: xmaslightguy
Quote=You just break open the plastic case & solder in new capacitors & ignitors.
But where can you find capacitors (no markings or rating s on it)? I've got a bad one from a similar shoplight (not LOA but same exact design)

Quote=The chokes shouldn't go bad,
I've had more than one go up in smoke...these lights had no thermal protection, so the ballast/choke could easily overheat. (although the most likely part to fail is that crappy little electronic "starter" thing)

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Jan 04, 2011 at 12:02 AM Author: arcblue
My comment was of course tongue-in-cheek, but I truly couldn't remember that the capacitor had no markings on it...goes to figure though. And I seem to remember that SIDACs aren't exactly easy to find...maybe if I pull one from a HPS ignitor it would work?

I guess it stands to reason have no thermal protectors either....though I have a shoplight with the same ballasts potted inside a regular ballast can that I assumed had thermal protection....but looking at the label, there is no mention of it! I guess it doesn't take much to earn a "UL" rating (Undertaker's Laboratory?)

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Jan 04, 2011 at 05:46 PM Author: xmaslightguy
@arcblue
LOL I thought maybe you'd actually found a place to get parts
SIDAC? is that what the little electronic "starter thingie" is called?

I've also got a shoplight with a 2-lamp ballast similar to the one in your link.

UL actually doesn't (or at least didn't..not sure on current rules) require thermal protection on "simple reactance ballasts" (ie: basic preheat chokes) so manufacturers don't bother with it..a part thats probably only a few cents.

I actually thought about adding thermal protection to the remaining LOA shoplights i've got, but never got around to it (kinda remember that I might have even bought the parts)

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Jan 04, 2011 at 06:49 PM Author: Foxtronix
Is it smaller than a standard size preheat choke ?

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Jan 04, 2011 at 07:37 PM Author: xmaslightguy
@TiCoune66 Yep, it is smaller than a standard 15/20w preheat choke.

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Jan 05, 2011 at 03:54 PM Author: form109
This choke is very tiny indeed....when running a F40T12 Lamp it runs pretty cool,it ran blisteringly hot with a 32 Watt Circline.

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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Jan 05, 2011 at 06:10 PM Author: xmaslightguy
I agree these don't get all that warm with a standard F40T12
The older ones will get hot with a 34w F40T12 (and if that 34w lamp is out in freezing temperatures like say a shed in winter...you'll fry the ballast).

Pretty much your best bet is to avoid those 34w "energy saver" lamps in any light anyway LOL

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Jan 05, 2011 at 06:39 PM Author: icefoglights
Try to run them when it's cold enough, you'll fry the ballasts even with standard F40s.

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Jan 05, 2011 at 06:56 PM Author: xmaslightguy
True LOL

But if it gets far enough below zero they're actually fine...because they'll do nothing at all - not even a glow in the ends

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Jan 06, 2011 at 04:10 PM Author: streetlight98
Strange, somthing this small and cheap is getting so many comments. 29 in all.

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Jan 10, 2011 at 07:31 AM Author: form109
hehe,very funny streetlight98:lol:

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Jan 10, 2011 at 04:58 PM Author: streetlight98
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Mar 13, 2011 at 06:33 PM Author: form109
@arcblue i took the ignitor circuity out of an LOA Shoplight and tried to use it to fire a 175 Watt MH on a 70 Watt HPS Ballast,the Ignitor Pulsed 5 times and died.

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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Mar 14, 2011 at 03:24 PM Author: streetlight98
BTW, do they still make F40T12 lamps? All i see are those nasty F34T8 "energy complient" lamps for use with F40T12 ballasts.

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Mar 14, 2011 at 06:47 PM Author: xmaslightguy
@streetlight98 yep they still make F40T12 lamps where I'm at, any store that sells fluorescents has both F40T12 & F32T8

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Mar 14, 2011 at 07:19 PM Author: icefoglights
The local Fred Meyer stores sells GE F40/RES (single and 2-packs), F40KB (single and 2-packs) and F40C50, as well as F25T12/UTSL single and 2-packs. On the other hand, their only F32T8 they sell is the F32T8/SP41 2-pack.

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Mar 14, 2011 at 07:39 PM Author: arcblue
Form 109, why did you use the ignitor to fire up a 175w MH on a 70w HPS ballast? That sounds like a recipe for damaging the lamp, ballast AND ignitor...so I guess you got lucky.

Icefoglights - how cold will these shoplight ballasts operate before they fail to start the lamp and destroy themselves? I've had them down to a few degrees below freezing and they started fine, but flickered wildly for a few minutes. Even my 34w's on a magnetic rapid start ballast and my 8' slimline started fine but had a particularly long warm-up with striations. I guess it's gotta be much colder than that to experience the no-start problems and it hasn't been colder than 14F in Seattle for decades.

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Mar 14, 2011 at 07:53 PM Author: icefoglights
If it was colder than 0(F), we didn't come. That said, the inside of an enclosed, unheated building with no windows was good at trapping the overnight lows, so it could easily be below 0 inside. I'd guess around 15 or colder. It's probably been 16 years since I tried them out. I've also noticed that, depending on the ballast, in those temps, even magnetic RS ballasts will simply cause end glow with no glow what so ever coming from the tube.

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Mar 15, 2011 at 03:29 AM Author: form109
@arcblue it was a simple experiment far from the most extreme variety....lamp had pretty high hours on it yet survived perfectly intact,the ballast was hardly used and survived as well,the only part that died was the ignitor circuitry...luck...meh.

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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Nov 02, 2013 at 03:23 PM Author: Seth11
I had one of those junky LOA lights. I put an F32T8 lamp in it once to test and the ends glowed and that was it. It put a huge black mark on the lamp. I put it on a electronic IS ballast to finish it off. Plus the choke was very noisy and it drove me insane! VERY ANNOYING!!!!!!

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Jun 04, 2014 at 05:52 PM Author: themaritimegirl
Regarding the loud buzzing at startup, I believe before they started using electronic starters, LOA shoplights used a magnetic starter similar to what some fluorescent light installations used before the 1940s - perhaps that is what's being heard. Dad had such a shoplight some 6 years ago, and it worked well.

Edit: I've just seen the video form109 posted, in which a standard glow starter was used. Assuming the shoplight's own starter was disconnected, that would mean it is indeed the ballast itself making the noise...

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Jun 04, 2014 at 11:12 PM Author: ace100w120v
I have a Lithonia shoplight with one of those "LOA-guts-inside-an F-can" ballasts. It also does the "BAUZZT!" thing at startup.
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Aug 04, 2014 at 09:59 AM Author: form109
I was never impressed with the LOA Shoplight but I got every fluorescent fixture in that flea market for 5 Bucks a pop so it was a GREAT deal lol.

Personally i think that all Lamp Bans are idiotic,the idea of telling us we cant use this lamp type just cause its less efficent is highly communist in nature...really what good is it going to do?

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