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Old Cloth Braided Non-Metallic Cable

Old Cloth Braided Non-Metallic Cable

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Here is some old two-wire cloth-covered non-metallic cable. This is the predecessor to our modern Romex. This was probably installed in the late '30s or early '40s. It is still in great shape all through this building! I have no problem continuing to use it.

This appears to be 14 gauge. Under the braided cloth is some kind of coating, probably rubber. The rubber coating is soft and flimsy, so it is protected by the cloth. This wire feeds a light fixture that I am "upgrading" by adding a wall switch and electrical outlet. For now I will use an old stock two-wire outlet since there is no ground. If I need a grounded outlet later on, I will install a GFCI.

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Aug 14, 2011 at 05:37 PM Author: TudorWhiz
That is OLD! Not even a junction box available!!! That has to be before the 1940s!

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Aug 14, 2011 at 05:40 PM Author: nogden
Actually there was a junction box, I just removed it because I am replacing it. I am running Wiremold raceway down to the light switch, and the Wiremold light fitting box didn't work well with the existing junction box. It stuck out away from the ceiling too far. I figured while I had the box out, I would take a picture!
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Aug 14, 2011 at 06:52 PM Author: TudorWhiz
I see but it is old enough to have wire creeping out of wood instead of from hollow space through the junction box and out!

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Aug 14, 2011 at 09:19 PM Author: icefoglights
I've seen something older than this. I think it may have been the first nonmetallic cable widely used, in a building built in the 30s. It was sort of a cross between this type of cable and K&T. It used two wires insulated with same colored rubber loom insulation, similar to the wires used in K&T. Those were wrapped in paper and bundled in a rubber loom tube sheath. Of course, decades in a hot, muggy attic had turned the sheath into a solid brittle tube. Was fine as long as you didn't have to try to move it. The outside diameter was surprisingly large too.

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Aug 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM Author: randacnam7321
In some applications having a cable come straight out of the wall into a fixture with no wiring/junction box continued into the 1950s, such as travel trailers where wiring codes were not as strict. Also, there was an intermediate stage of cable between this stuff and modern NM cable, with nylon insulated conductors (no cloth wrap) inside a plastic impregnated cloth sheath.

Old school FTW!

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Aug 15, 2011 at 03:30 AM Author: Ash
I'd replace wires where the isoltion is hardened - They can crack for some reason later (anything from accidentally poking them when moving around in the attic to a small earthquake)
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