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I saw this fixture on a gas station during a camping trip. It had no latches on the refractor, and appeared to have no space for a ballast inside, as well as an unusual photocontrol. However, it had a clear MV lamp inside, so I have no idea. Maybe remote ballasted?

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Manufacturer:???
Model Reference:???
Lamp
Lamp Type:Mercury vapor?
Fixture
Ballast Type:???
Photocell Type:Tall and ugly
Electrical
Wattage:175?

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Aug 28, 2015 at 03:18 PM Author: Solanaceae
It may be remote ballasted, or for self ballasted or incandescent bulbs. Either way, it looks to be uncommon. Try to get if you can.

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Aug 28, 2015 at 03:25 PM Author: Lumex120
It was really far away, and it was on a gas station, so I can't get it. The gas station isn't that old, either, so I have no idea who could have made it or when.

Any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.

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Aug 28, 2015 at 03:25 PM Author: sailormoon_01_uk
Interesting NEMA Light, re the Photocell it looks like a Intermatic K45 series - Photocell
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Aug 28, 2015 at 03:34 PM Author: Solanaceae
Reminds me of this.

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Aug 28, 2015 at 07:44 PM Author: sol
There was one like that nearby and I only remember it to be incandescent. Maybe it was SBMV some time ago but never relamped properly. I can't get it as the building on which it was installed burned down.

Is it a ballast box where the conduit is connected ? Could explain the MV lamp you saw there.
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Aug 29, 2015 at 03:11 AM Author: Medved
Indeed, it looks like a remote ballast fixture. Good for the ballast - does not get exposed to the lamp heat...

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Aug 29, 2015 at 04:53 AM Author: sol
Years ago the power company here had a model of rental MV that had a ballast box bolted to the pole. The arm, essentially a pipe, came out the top of the box and had a fitting just like this one. Some arms were longer than others. The photocell was on top of the lamp like in this picture. This means the arm had five wires (three for the PC and two for the lamp). Unfortunately, I cannot think of any left in my area although back in the 80's and in the 90's there were a fair number left. Some had closed-bottom refractors and others were open. Some had missing refractors and only the reflector left. They were cool, though.
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Aug 29, 2015 at 06:04 AM Author: Lumex120
Sounds interesting. What's weird here is that the gas station didn't look that old, so I don't know. Maybe an NOS fixture?
Fun fact: They also had an extremely low mounted m400r3 250w HPS outside.

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Aug 29, 2015 at 09:38 AM Author: Medved
I guess it could be a way to allow higher power than the usual 175W...

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Aug 29, 2015 at 12:30 PM Author: sol
The ones in my area were all 175W mercury vapour, but I would imagine the manufacturer offered other wattages as well.
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Sep 02, 2015 at 07:18 AM Author: Lumex120
Maybe, just maybe, an electronic ballast in the top?

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Sep 02, 2015 at 08:32 AM Author: Ash
In high power HID they arent any smaller than the magnetic ones.... And how would it stand a chance with the heat from the lamp
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