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10x 40w BC candles by General Electric!

10x 40w BC candles by General Electric!

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Saw this on ebay and decided to buy the bulk as I remember getting these bulbs for our chandelier in B&Q

With date codes we'll start from the top row from left to right

TR: K3, K3, J1, J7, K3

BR: K3, J7, K3, K3, K3

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Jan 20, 2016 at 11:22 PM Author: rapidstart
By the packaging, they look to be the Hungarian-made ones. I have in use some of the 60w SBC frosted ones. They seem good quality lamps.

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Jan 21, 2016 at 06:04 AM Author: Flurofan96
Indeed are genuine 100% Hungarian made candle bulbs which you can't get in DIY stores today no cheapochinese there at all

Apparently the GE retrofit halogen candles and GLS are also made in Hungary but my mum does not like them because they run slightly hotter than incandescent and might burn the ceiling

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Jan 29, 2016 at 12:25 AM Author: rapidstart
Today at the supermarket I looked at a pack of Mirabella brand halogen candles and according to the carton, they can reach temperatures of 200 deg C.

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Jan 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM Author: Flurofan96
Oh man that is not very good 200 celsius is indeed a fire hazard

With my chandelier being very close to the ceiling, the halogen retrofit bulbs would have a good chance of roasting the ceiling- I can see significant black marks enough when using 40w incandescents

So its either incandescent or CFL or LED my chandelier is going to use

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Jan 29, 2016 at 06:22 PM Author: rapidstart
We had 60w fancy round (golf ball) incandescent bulbs in a three-arm pendent where each arm was pointing downwards at about a 45 degree angle. These small lamps were used at the time so that they did not protrude out the open end of the glass shade. They got so hot that they literally welded themselves into the sockets and I had a hell of a job removing them at EOL. One socket got damaged beyond repair in trying to remove the EOL bulb and had to be replaced.

I noticed that some of the manufacturers started putting warnings on the packaging of their 60w candle and fancy round bulbs not to use them base up due to over-heating.

The Mirabella halogens have some warning about checking the suitability of the fitting before using the lamps due to their temperature.

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Jan 30, 2016 at 01:02 PM Author: Flurofan96
Ohhhh shoe that is literally insane that the base of the golf balls welded to the sockets of the 3 arm pendant fixture oh heck yes that is worse than having to remove stuck bases from EOL incandescents that have fallen out of their bases umm did you manage to put a new socket into the fixture or did the entire fixture had to go in the end?

Good job the makers are putting warning of overheating with their halogen retrofits

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Jan 30, 2016 at 10:41 PM Author: rapidstart
Yes, managed to replace the socket thus saving the fixture.

My description of "the bulbs literally welded themselves into the sockets" probably needs a bit of clarification. The bulbs had heated to a point where the two solder points on the cap had softened just enough so that the two pins in the socket under their spring tension had imbedded themselves into the solder. When I finally extracted the bulbs, you could see the indents in the solder.

The plastic skirts that screw onto the sockets holding the glass shades in place were also badly affected by the heat and were quite brittle at the end closest to the bulb. Fortunately the threaded part was ok so were still usable.

Currently using CFL's in this fixture that I have leftover from promotional giveaways.

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Feb 01, 2016 at 05:31 PM Author: Flurofan96
Promotional CFLS? Something like the government would do that sort of thing or an energy company

Ohh so the melting is not too extreme as I've pictured in my head and I'm glad you've managed to put new sockets into the fixture

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Feb 01, 2016 at 10:15 PM Author: rapidstart
An electricity supplier was behind one of the giveaways of 6 cfl's.
Another giveaway was from a supplier of 'eco friendly' products. You got 6 cfl's and a water-saving shower head.

Today at a Woolworth's supermarket I looked at pack of Philips 28w halogen candle bulbs which were made in Poland. There was no mention of temperature but there is a warning that the bulb is too hot to touch with bare hands.

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Feb 02, 2016 at 04:01 PM Author: Flurofan96
WOOLWORTH"S? Is that franchise still running in Australia because here in UK Woolworths has gone out of business and shut down their stores.

Good spotting halogen candle bulbs made by Philips in Poland (better than Chinese) and that is not very good that it doesn't mention about the temperature being hotter than normal incandescent bulb temperature. Anyhow its best that we stick to good old incandescent bulbs instead of the halogen retrofits you have beautiful fixtures in your house and I'm very pleased that you've managed tog get some incandescent bulbs from the UK

And how are the 6 CFLS performing from which you've got from the promotion of your electrical supplier has any of them gone EOL yet? My OSRAM DULUXSTAR which has been running since early 2011 is still going strong despite its base going a bit yellow and some sections of the tube's glass going yellow from the tiny unphosphored sections

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Feb 02, 2016 at 10:27 PM Author: rapidstart
I still have a couple of candle bulbs left that I bought from a Woolworths that was near where I was staying at Marble Arch, London. That was back in '93.

Over here, Woolworths is the supermarket arm of the business. Their variety store arm goes under the name of Big W. They tried to take on Bunnings (a large hardware warehouse chain) with their Masters Home Improvement stores but they did not do well and unless they are bought out, the Masters stores will close. I hear Bunnings (owned by Wesfarmers) may be headed to your country.

Thanks for your comments on the light fixtures.

At Bunnings today I noticed the only incandescent lamps available were 25w candle and fancy round/golf ball, 15 & 25w pilot/pygmy, 40w SES tubular appliance lamps, reproduction vintage filament lamps and coloured GLS.

Regarding the giveaway CFL's: I've had one failure of the Ozone brand but probably due to frequent switching rather than actual burning hours. I guess that's the legacy when using CFL's in a bedroom ceiling fixture that isn't on for long periods. I have a picture of an Ozone CFL in my gallery.

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Feb 03, 2016 at 12:54 PM Author: rjluna2
Cool, Peter

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Feb 03, 2016 at 01:08 PM Author: Flurofan96
Ah so Woolworths is still alive and kicking in Australia and Bunnings, yes I've heard it from our Australian mates on this site and it'll be interesting when they come to the UK


Thank you, Robert

Better than no incandescents, of what you've saw at Bunnings (and I'm amazed how coloured GLS are still being sold) there is NONE in B&Q store which I clearly remember back when they had them during my small boy days

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Feb 03, 2016 at 01:09 PM Author: Flurofan96
@Rjluna2: Thank you

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Feb 03, 2016 at 01:37 PM Author: Lampman
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Feb 03, 2016 at 02:01 PM Author: Flurofan96
Thanks. I'm glad to have found them and use them in my chandelier - proper incandescent bulbs!

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Feb 03, 2016 at 05:47 PM Author: rapidstart
I'm not sure what's going on with incandescent coloured GLS'. The situation re availability seems to have changed since Christmas 2015. Bunnings no longer sell them individually, only in packs of 10 (2 of each colour). They are Arlec brand and probably made in China.

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Feb 04, 2016 at 08:35 AM Author: Flurofan96
10 pack sounds good to me but not good if you want just one bulb and being China made, they won't last long unless if you slow start them on a dimmer switch

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Feb 04, 2016 at 07:42 PM Author: rapidstart
I've still got some mainly Chinese-made spares but I will preserve the Australian-made Philips blue one as its etch is intact and it had only been lit once to photograph it for my gallery here on L-G. Then there are the Aussie-made transparent blue-glass ones but these won't be used in the Christmas light string due to their rarity. I may occasionally light them indoors but soft-started on a dimmer.

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Feb 05, 2016 at 03:52 AM Author: Flurofan96
Glad you've got some Australian made lamps I too don't like to run incandescent lamps that are irreplaceable. I like to store them in a cabinet http://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-103940

This was taken around early 2015 but in August 2015 it had to be moved to the loft as the downstair loo had been renovated

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Feb 05, 2016 at 04:37 AM Author: Mercurylamps
It's a big shame that the ELMA plant shut down in Newcastle, NSW about 2002. Not much is made in Australia anymore.
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Feb 05, 2016 at 06:15 AM Author: rapidstart
@Flurofan96: Mine are just in a drawer in the garage. I never set out collecting lamps. I was given the transparent blue and red glass bulbs and the Mazda Torch Candle that is in my profile picture. Interesting your comment about not wanting to run incandescent's that are irreplaceable. I'm in two minds with this. In my case with the Mazda Torch Candle, I only have one but I do light it occasionally (via a dimmer) as it looks completely different lit than when not lit as you will see if you go to my gallery. I don't have anywhere to display it so if it was EOL or not EOL would not make a difference if stuck in a drawer. Maybe I'm letting the side down here Interesting how this thread has moved away from your 40w GE candles

@Mercurylamps: Not as if the government actually encourages local manufacturing I believe it all started to go pear-shaped with the reduction of tarrifs on imported goods many years ago causing many Australian factories to shut down.

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Feb 06, 2016 at 06:55 AM Author: Flurofan96
I like your profile picture of that Mazda torch candle- looks beautiful

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