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Metalux 4 Foot strip light

Metalux 4 Foot strip light

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These replaced Lithonia 4 foot T12 lights. These are still 4 foot T12.

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Location:Home Depot on Sierra Ave in Fontana, CA.

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Jul 28, 2018 at 10:35 PM Author: xmaslightguy
Saw some of those at Home Depot today..it really does surprise me that they even brought them in rather than simply discontinuing carrying T12 fixtures alltogether.

And LOL you could buy one of these at whatever its full overpriced-ness or go over to the clearance & pick up the Lithonia version for a little over $5

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It also surprises me that anyone even still manufactures T12 fixtures for that matter

Colored Fluorescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome...

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Jul 28, 2018 at 10:40 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
Yeah true! They're still $10 here... the ones on clearence.

Current: US 120v 60hz
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Jul 28, 2018 at 10:50 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
What ballast is in this
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Jul 28, 2018 at 11:43 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
Sorry... I didn't open one to check as they were all sealed. I'll try to check tomorrow.

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Jul 29, 2018 at 05:59 PM Author: streetlight98
All the clearance items from brand changing disappeared here. Seems like they go from being just a couple bucks off full price to not existing here. Both Lowes and Home Depot locations here are like that.

Although I'm sure the ballasts in these are crap, at least it's a full size fixture so you can put a "real" ballast inside.

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Jul 29, 2018 at 08:14 PM Author: joseph_125
Yeah over here the Home Depot clearance items here are either a few bucks off regular price or very hard to find. They donate the stuff that they can't sell within a reasonable amount of time to Habitat Restore. Lowe's on the other hand I used to be able to score good deals on stuff. Interesting to see that Home Depot is switching to Metalux, I think the Canadian ones are still selling Lithonia fixtures for the time being.

Yeah, I've seen a slim two lamp T8 fixture at HD before which probably only fits the OEM ballast. At least with this you can install a decent ballast, and even a HPF magnetic RS but you might have to change the sockets if it came with factory shunted sockets.
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Jul 29, 2018 at 08:29 PM Author: xmaslightguy
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Yeah, I've seen a slim two lamp T8 fixture at HD before which probably only fits the OEM ballast.
Interesting. I've only ever seen the slim 2xF32T8 & F17T8 fixtures at Lowes. Width is exactly the same as a standard 1xT12 fixture, so you actually could put in a magnetic F32 RS ballast
(I'm guessing all they do is use different end-plates & the frame itself is the same for both)

Colored Fluorescent's such as F40T12 Red or  Green or Blue are awesome...

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Jul 29, 2018 at 09:53 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Watch out on the single lamp sized strip light bodies. Some models look like they fit a magnetic but they don't because theres ribs inside near the back to stop a full can ballast from mounting.
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Aug 02, 2018 at 05:01 AM Author: Fluorescent05
@Lightingguy1994, why do they try to stop the full can ballasts from fitting in the fixtures?

Don't be fooLED, T8 IS the worst thing to do to a magnetic T12 fixture.

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Aug 02, 2018 at 10:40 AM Author: streetlight98
I think the ribs actually are there for rigidity.

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Aug 02, 2018 at 10:53 AM Author: Lightingguy1994
Here is a link to a members photo showing the fixtures with the ridges that prevent full ballasts from fitting. He had to bang the ridges flatter to make a ballast fit. I think they did it for that and not for rigidity as all other strips don't have them

The member said the lights are from Lowes so stay away from Lowes single lampers unless you like T8.

Edit* A magnetic LPF ballast with a smaller can will still fit also, so it isn't too bad
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Aug 02, 2018 at 04:29 PM Author: streetlight98
All Metalux strips AFAIK have the ridge. If you look at the picture on the box at the top of this page, the two lampers also have a ridge. The sheet metal is so thin on these newer strips they have to do something to make them not warp. Lithonia's "heavy duty" strip channels (as well as a lot of old school HO ones) have the ridge along the top. It also allows a tension-based hanger bracket to be mounted to the strip. My T17 shoplights have that feature. The hanger bracket clips into the ridge and a carriage bolt goes from one side of the hanger to the other. You tighten the bolt to pull the two sides of the hanger together to tension it so it locks onto the ridge. I doubt they would engineer the fixture to not fit a full-size ballast case because full-size ballasts aren't even made any more, so there's no one out there except us that would even try it.

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Aug 02, 2018 at 05:09 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Where can I get tension hangers from ? I have louvers that have a ridge for those. And I just feel like they make these ones not fit full ballasts to prevent downgrading, like the troffers and wraps that have shallow ballast channels . No matter what their intentions were, its a pain for me that they were designed that way it makes it harder to buy new lights but still have them old style.
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Aug 02, 2018 at 06:01 PM Author: streetlight98
You may need brand-specific ones but Lithonia offers them as an accessory to their heavy-duty strips. Part number "THUN" on the second page, called a "tong hanger" apparently. They make one for their widebody strips too!

Cooper offers it too. Here's Metalux's catalog of accessories, in it is the tong hanger.

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Aug 02, 2018 at 06:14 PM Author: Patrick
I managed to cram a full size ballast into one of those narrow Metalux strips. I had to bend the bracket up a bit, but it held.

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Aug 02, 2018 at 08:10 PM Author: Fluorescent05
Will a full size channel cover fit on a troffer with a narrow ballast channel?

Don't be fooLED, T8 IS the worst thing to do to a magnetic T12 fixture.

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Aug 02, 2018 at 08:10 PM Author: Fluorescent05
Will a full size channel cover fit on a troffer with a narrow ballast channel?

Don't be fooLED, T8 IS the worst thing to do to a magnetic T12 fixture.

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Aug 02, 2018 at 09:50 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Its possible, especially if the full ballast cover comes from a fixture of the same brand
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Aug 03, 2018 at 05:46 AM Author: Fluorescent05
Nice, now I know it's possible to trade ballast covers with my grandparents' troffer that I retrofitted to electronic ballasts and put magnetic ballasts in one when I get one.

Don't be fooLED, T8 IS the worst thing to do to a magnetic T12 fixture.

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Aug 03, 2018 at 11:01 AM Author: Lightingguy1994
As long as the design of the troffer with the small cover isn't designed any differently than the older troffer then the ballast covers should be swappable.

I can't guarantee anything though as it depends on the brand and designs
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Aug 03, 2018 at 03:22 PM Author: Fluorescent05
When I get back from vacation I will try to get a picture of the old troffer and the insides (tubes and ballast cover)

Don't be fooLED, T8 IS the worst thing to do to a magnetic T12 fixture.

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Aug 03, 2018 at 03:23 PM Author: streetlight98
I noticed some T8 troffers are thinner and may not fit a full-size channel cover (or they do, but it's pressed against the diffuser and looks dumb). My 2006 parabolic 2x4 Lithonia troffer is 3X F32T8 and won't even fit T12 lamps! The ones I removed from Aerovox are full-size though with traditional sockets and the ballasts themselves are full-size so a T12 conversion would be easy. Impossible with my 2006 model though, but it's from my high school I have no desire to modify it from its original form.

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Aug 03, 2018 at 03:42 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
I have a 4 lamp Lithonia troffer and it has the thin covers and the smaller sockets that you snap the lamps into like a ubend lamp. Though i could mod it for bigger ballasts, i settled for leaving it T8 and installing my electronic rapid start series T8 ballasts in it instead since they are small can and seem quite reliable . because of this im waiting to find more of those troffers
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Aug 03, 2018 at 07:05 PM Author: streetlight98
Yeah the programmed start/rapid start T8 ballasts are nice and the lamps last a long time on them! Though I've seen T8s go well over 10 years on instant start as well. The Sylvania IS ballasts hold up extremely well. They know what they're doing!

To resist is to piss in the wind, anyone who does will end up smelling.

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