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Philips CDM-i 25W/830 European Integrated Ballast MH lamp

Philips CDM-i 25W/830 European Integrated Ballast MH lamp

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What you are seeing here is a rare in Europe peculiarity of a MH with an integrated electronic ballast enabling the direct use on 220V-240V line voltage. This is a PAR38 reflector lamp with a 40° beam angle (there are also variants with a 25° and 10° angle). Inside this lamp there is CDM-Tm 20W/830 burner with reflector and power wires permanently attached to the base. Installed electronic ballast is rated for 220V-240V and 50Hz/60Hz. Startup is nice and smooth. It doesn't provide hot restrike, lamp must cool down before it will strike again.

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Manufacturer:PHILIPS
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Lamp Type:Metal Halide
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Color Temperature:3000K

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120/240VAC @ 60HZ


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Sep 04, 2019 at 06:05 PM Author: LampLover
cool! I always wanted one of these but they were prohibitively expensive and now with LED no longer available. I though these were exclusive to the US market I guess I was wrong
Anyway cool find

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Sep 04, 2019 at 06:57 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
Nice!

Good quality things are awesome. Cheaply made things are not.

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Sep 05, 2019 at 05:03 AM Author: trojmiejski
There must have been separate production for US and EU, different voltage and legal reasons, on the box of my lamp there is a text saying "Not for sale in the US". As far as I know in the US there are integrated ballast MHs from many brands and such idea got more traction there. In Europe I don't recognise any other case than this series from Philips, good that at least there was anything like that at all.
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Sep 05, 2019 at 05:18 AM Author: LampLover

There must have been separate production for US and EU, different voltage and legal reasons, on the box of my lamp there is a text saying "Not for sale in the US". As far as I know in the US there are integrated ballast MHs from many brands and such idea got more traction there. In Europe I don't recognise any other case than this series from Philips, good that at least there was anything like that at all.


The only two makers for the US market (Of Self ballasted Metal Halide) I aware of are Sylvania and Philips there may be more I am not aware of though

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Sep 05, 2019 at 05:57 AM Author: trojmiejski
Still two manufacturers are more than one.
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Sep 05, 2019 at 06:32 AM Author: suzukir122
GE also makes Self Ballasted Metal Halides as well, (23w) but not sure if it involves the US market.

I've got the 120v 60hz Philips 25w Par38... https://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=35&pid=148681
Mine is also self ballasted.
Start up with mine is not as smooth... with lots of orange and pink flashes during the color shifting phase.

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Sep 05, 2019 at 07:02 AM Author: trojmiejski
So I'm not the only one with such Philips lamp. Mine also has pink flashes, just not as many and may be due to minuscule differences between different arctube production batches. Here is a video of my lamp startup:
https://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2837&pos=0&pid=163994
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Sep 05, 2019 at 01:59 PM Author: suzukir122
@Trojmiejski, seems as if yours has less of a delay during start up, and yours also warms up faster than mine as well.
Yours also doesn't have that very high pitched whistle that mine seems to have, which seems to be getting worse as time
goes on, by the way. I'll make a close up/comparison video of mine starting up here soon!

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Sep 05, 2019 at 02:22 PM Author: trojmiejski
Mine whistles a bit when the lamp is turned on soon after turning off and the burner is too warm for restrike.
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Sep 06, 2019 at 06:38 AM Author: suzukir122
Mine is literally exactly the same. Restrike takes about 6 minutes with mine though, I think. about 3 or 4 minutes though
with my smaller 20w track light MH lamps.
I will try to find time to make a close up video and I'll post a link to that video here!

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Sep 21, 2019 at 12:43 PM Author: sox35
Oooh, this is nice, must see if I can find one, are they particularly difficult to get..?

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Sep 21, 2019 at 12:56 PM Author: suzukir122
Yo... just a quick update man... My 25w Par38 finally went EOL today, after almost 3 years of daily on and off usage.

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Sep 22, 2019 at 07:29 PM Author: trojmiejski

Oooh, this is nice, must see if I can find one, are they particularly difficult to get..?

They aren't available commonplace and normally they are very expensive. I've got mine from a seller that had a small NOS and sold them very cheaply, probably thinking that it is just a weird looking halogen (in my language metal halide lamp is lampa metalohalogenkowa while halogen lamp is lampa halogenowa so from linguistic point of view it is easy to confuse one with another). That guy also has some other unusual lamps that are out of production for some time, including 230V E14 halogens with transformers which lower the voltage for the 12V filament.
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Update: I found a couple on eBay from a German seller, they arrived today and are beautiful to look at lit

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Mar 25, 2020 at 04:11 PM Author: trojmiejski
Currently I'm using this lamp regularly, I've noticed that during first two startups it didn't flash in pink too much but since then at every later startup it flashed very intensively.
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Mar 25, 2020 at 05:24 PM Author: suzukir122
Gotta love that pink flash. My Par38 that I had EOL'ed several months ago before I moved out of that apartment.
I have to buy more and I absolutely will buy more. lol

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Mar 25, 2020 at 06:33 PM Author: trojmiejski
Another cool effect is how red and orange objects have that undead vibe during the blue phase of startup (due to lack of red lines in spectrum) while greens and blues appear to be already lit and when the lamp changes its color, then red and orange objects slowly start to appear "alive" with proper hues.
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Mar 25, 2020 at 06:34 PM Author: sox35
I confess I didn't notice that when I started ours earlier this evening. I'll make a mental note to do so next time we run it up

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Mar 25, 2020 at 06:42 PM Author: suzukir122
Yup I know exactly what you're talking about @trojmieski. I literally would watch the same thing. I remember watching this one
time with a Kmart labeled grocery bag, back when Kmart was still open of course.

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Mar 25, 2020 at 07:37 PM Author: sol
I regularly watch red objects regain their colour when my MH lamps warm up.

One interesting thing : the local swimming pool has changed to LED... but, I happened upon their brochure, on the cover of which there is a picture of the pool all lit up with the new lights. When looking at that picture under a warming-up MH lamp, it appears like if the lights in the picture are really MH warming up !

One of my favourite things to do with the MH lamps in my living/dining rooms is arriving alone at home after dark. I keep all lights off and switch on both MH. The gradual colours appearing is quite something, reminiscent of seeing the warmup in the school gym, for example.

Oh, and my MH, for some paradoxical reason, don't really flash when warming up. I like slow, intense flashes, but they are far and few between. The M59 lamps in the school gym would almost always flash a very bright intense slow pink colour, only once, making a transition between the green MV phase and the final colour. That was awesome !
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Mar 26, 2020 at 03:35 AM Author: suzukir122
The MH lamps at my school would flash orange. Powerful orange flashes. Each and every time that happened I looked around and
I was like, " Does anybody notice this?? This is awesome." haha... same thing with the Mcdonalds drive thru near me here recently.
The metal halides were switched on and as they warmed up, some began flashing orange. For some reason, those flashes are orange, not pink
like with my CMH.

Interests:
1. Motorcycles, cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

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