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American Electric NEMA Style LED Street Light

American Electric NEMA Style LED Street Light

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A/E came out with these compatible looking NEMA style LED street lights but apparently only produced them for a short while. Too bad because they would match existed NEMA's pretty well. Bought this one with "green" photo control on Ebay about a year ago.

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Manufacturer:American Electric
Model Reference:LNH 32LED E60 120 R5 BA PW5 PCSS-NC
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Lamp Type:LED
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Fixture Type:Street
Ballast Type:LED
Photocell Type:ES

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Nov 06, 2019 at 10:48 PM Author: fluorescent lover 40
Nice! Didn't they discontinue these for the ugly ones?

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Nov 06, 2019 at 11:21 PM Author: GE101R

Nice! Didn't they discontinue these for the ugly ones?

Sure did. The newer ones could not get anymore uglified. lol
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Nov 06, 2019 at 11:24 PM Author: WestinghouseCeramalux
I remember this being on eBay...almost fooled me for an HID...then I looked closer and was surprised that it was an LED.

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Nov 06, 2019 at 11:27 PM Author: GE101R

I remember this being on eBay...almost fooled me for an HID...then I looked closer and was surprised that it was an LED.

Me too...I got it cheap and it came with a new photocell in the factory box. I haven't seen any others ever advertised for sale on the web.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 12:02 PM Author: joseph_125
I'm guessing they changed the design so quickly due to thermal issues since the new model has a much more substantial heatsink. The new one would look a lot better if they made the heatsink and bucket concentric with the head like the old NEMAs IMO.

I wonder if anyone saved the spec sheet for the pictured model though.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 01:11 PM Author: Lightingguy1994
Cool they should have kept this model as it looks like you can easily convert it to HID
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Nov 07, 2019 at 01:38 PM Author: GE101R

I'm guessing they changed the design so quickly due to thermal issues since the new model has a much more substantial heatsink. The new one would look a lot better if they made the heatsink and bucket concentric with the head like the old NEMAs IMO.

I wonder if anyone saved the spec sheet for the pictured model though.


There are two sheets in the box from the factory. I will see what they are.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 01:51 PM Author: GE101R
Found this on the old A/E site 2012:

American Electric Lighting Launches LED Security Luminaires
March 29, 2012

Acuity Brands, Inc. is pleased to announce the launch of the LED NEMA Head Series (LNH) luminaire from American Electric Lighting®. The LNH luminaire maintains the familiar NEMA Head aesthetic, but uses LED technology to produce a comfortable and efficient white light that significantly reduces operating costs and extends the fixture life.

Intended for security areas, storage yards, rural areas, area lighting, loading and receiving areas, the LNH luminaire features:

More than 65 percent energy cost reduction compared to 175MV HID
A 50 percent reduction in maintenance costs compared to HID
An estimated 20-year product life

“The new LNH luminaire is the right choice when it comes to sustainable security lighting solutions,” said Rob Drago, VP Infrastructure Lighting, Acuity Brands. “Security is a prime concern for many facilities and municipalities, and the LNH luminaire uses efficient white light to improve visibility, ensuring key areas are well lit from dusk to dawn.”

Consuming only 60 watts of input power, the LNH luminaire reduces CO2 emissions by .4 metric tons annually. The significant reduction in energy use and lighting maintenance coupled with the extremely long life of the LNH luminaire results in a fixture that provides the lowest total cost of ownership.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 02:05 PM Author: HPSM250R2

Found this on the old A/E site 2012:

American Electric Lighting Launches LED Security Luminaires
March 29, 2012

Acuity Brands, Inc. is pleased to announce the launch of the LED NEMA Head Series (LNH) luminaire from American Electric Lighting®. The LNH luminaire maintains the familiar NEMA Head aesthetic, but uses LED technology to produce a comfortable and efficient white light that significantly reduces operating costs and extends the fixture life.

Intended for security areas, storage yards, rural areas, area lighting, loading and receiving areas, the LNH luminaire features:

More than 65 percent energy cost reduction compared to 175MV HID
A 50 percent reduction in maintenance costs compared to HID
An estimated 20-year product life

“The new LNH luminaire is the right choice when it comes to sustainable security lighting solutions,” said Rob Drago, VP Infrastructure Lighting, Acuity Brands. “Security is a prime concern for many facilities and municipalities, and the LNH luminaire uses efficient white light to improve visibility, ensuring key areas are well lit from dusk to dawn.”

Consuming only 60 watts of input power, the LNH luminaire reduces CO2 emissions by .4 metric tons annually. The significant reduction in energy use and lighting maintenance coupled with the extremely long life of the LNH luminaire results in a fixture that provides the lowest total cost of ownership.


Of course they compare it to MV, the least efficient HID light source. Which they don't even manufacture anymore. Let's see the numbers how it goes up against it's comparable wattage in HPS.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 02:25 PM Author: Edmund Ironside

Of course they compare it to MV, the least efficient HID light source. Which they don't even manufacture anymore. Let's see the numbers how it goes up against it's comparable wattage in HPS.


MV is what these would usually be replacing so the compare is quite valid.

Compared to HPS they would probably be equal in lumens per watt, most consumer grade LED fixtures are pretty much matched spec-wise to HPS. LED's does come with the pro of higher light quality and more directional light. A proper HPS fixture would last forever, this bucket of low grade crappy electronics.. Well, i dont think it would last in the real world.

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Nov 07, 2019 at 03:02 PM Author: HPSM250R2

MV is what these would usually be replacing so the compare is quite valid.

Compared to HPS they would probably be equal in lumens per watt, most consumer grade LED fixtures are pretty much matched spec-wise to HPS. LED's does come with the pro of higher light quality and more directional light. A proper HPS fixture would last forever, this bucket of low grade crappy electronics.. Well, i dont think it would last in the real world.


Not around here they wouldn't. There are no utility owned MV NEMA heads here. Everything's HPS.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 04:14 PM Author: Cole D.
GE has a LED area light that uses the same hood as the 201SA but the reflector/refractor is different. Some other company used to make one also that looked just like a 201SA, bucket optic, and all. But I don't remember, who it was.

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Nov 07, 2019 at 04:41 PM Author: GE101R

GE has a LED area light that uses the same hood as the 201SA but the reflector/refractor is different. Some other company used to make one also that looked just like a 201SA, bucket optic, and all. But I don't remember, who it was.

They change so often now. They are trying to produce before the technology is finished where they can get their hold on the markets.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 06:28 PM Author: GE101R

Cool they should have kept this model as it looks like you can easily convert it to HID

It would but the most important to me was the aesthetic compatibility with it's NEMA HID relatives.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 06:32 PM Author: HPSM250R2
Do you have it pre-wired or does this not have a terminal block?
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Nov 07, 2019 at 08:37 PM Author: GE101R

Do you have it pre-wired or does this not have a terminal block?

Came pre-wired from the factory with those leads shown. I will check the fixture head in the morning and see if there is a block.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 08:47 PM Author: streetlight98
A nice fixture! I love that it uses the classic universal bucket optics with the spring band holding the reflector and refractor together. Also love the fact that it's got a smooth reflector rather than the rippled reflector normally used nowadays. Almost has a vintage look to it! My only concern is that the open optics with almost no heat will attract tons of insects, which will attract spiders who will make lots of webs inside the bucket, trapping bugs and other debris, killing the efficiency of the optics. A closed bottom bucket would make more sense IMO. But otherwise a killer design for an LED fixture.

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Nov 07, 2019 at 09:03 PM Author: GE101R

A nice fixture! I love that it uses the classic universal bucket optics with the spring band holding the reflector and refractor together. Also love the fact that it's got a smooth reflector rather than the rippled reflector normally used nowadays. Almost has a vintage look to it! My only concern is that the open optics with almost no heat will attract tons of insects, which will attract spiders who will make lots of webs inside the bucket, trapping bugs and other debris, killing the efficiency of the optics. A closed bottom bucket would make more sense IMO. But otherwise a killer design for an LED fixture.


Not sure why they did not keep it on the market. Back way before streetlights and area lights rented by the power companies were so numerous, bugs would circle the fixture and the swirl would sometimes go all the way to the ground. Moths, "doodle bugs", and any other insect attracted to light would encircle each luminaire. As the number of outside lights increased and pesticides/insecticides became so widely used, the bug population around these as you know is almost non existent anymore.
The reflector seems like it is a heavier gauge than the general run of the mill newer NEMA's.
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Nov 07, 2019 at 09:17 PM Author: streetlight98
The insects here are still in healthy numbers here at night. Some of the AEL autobahn fixtures used here (typically near trees) are covered in spiderwebs with stuff trapped in them. Doesnt seem to affect the light output too much to me but I'm sure it does to a degree.

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Nov 07, 2019 at 09:24 PM Author: GE101R

The insects here are still in healthy numbers here at night. Some of the AEL autobahn fixtures used here (typically near trees) are covered in spiderwebs with stuff trapped in them. Doesnt seem to affect the light output too much to me but I'm sure it does to a degree.



I guess some areas are still affected. Not so much here or at home anymore.
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Nov 08, 2019 at 06:24 PM Author: GE101R

MV is what these would usually be replacing so the compare is quite valid.

Compared to HPS they would probably be equal in lumens per watt, most consumer grade LED fixtures are pretty much matched spec-wise to HPS. LED's does come with the pro of higher light quality and more directional light. A proper HPS fixture would last forever, this bucket of low grade crappy electronics.. Well, i dont think it would last in the real world.


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Nov 11, 2019 at 06:19 PM Author: Powergroove
Around my area all the mv streetlights were changed to hps back in the mid 80's. Where are all of these mv luminaries these are replacing. All the hps are now replaced by led. Typical of deception of the lighting industry. No different than comparing high end F32T8 making 2900 lumens to F40T12/CW/WM making 2650 lumens, and most of the time claiming the WM as a 40 watt lamp. There is no honor in deception.

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Nov 11, 2019 at 06:27 PM Author: GE101R

Around my area all the mv streetlights were changed to hps back in the mid 80's. Where are all of these mv luminaries these are replacing. All the hps are now replaced by led. Typical of deception of the lighting industry. No different than comparing high end F32T8 making 2900 lumens to F40T12/CW/WM making 2650 lumens, and most of the time claiming the WM as a 40 watt lamp. There is no honor in deception.


Same way with banning creosote and pentachlorophenol poles and replacing them with arsenic treated which last half as long and you never hear the greenies complain about cutting down double the trees.
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Nov 11, 2019 at 07:11 PM Author: streetlight98
Around here almost every privately owned yard light type fixture is indeed 175W MV, but a homeowner is very unlikely to buy one of these utility-grade LED NEMAs to replace their yard light, even if their yard light is a true NEMA head. Most utility-owned NEMA fixtures out there are most certainly HPS by this point.

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Nov 11, 2019 at 07:33 PM Author: GE101R

Around here almost every privately owned yard light type fixture is indeed 175W MV, but a homeowner is very unlikely to buy one of these utility-grade LED NEMAs to replace their yard light, even if their yard light is a true NEMA head. Most utility-owned NEMA fixtures out there are most certainly HPS by this point.

No doubt. A/E doesn't make these anymore as well.
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Nov 11, 2019 at 09:29 PM Author: Cole D.
My area which is GEC, has one MV NEMA still in use, surprisingly. Yet Duke Energy still have quite a few MV NEMA streetlights, around downtown amazingly. Otherwise rest of NEMAs are all HPS.

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Nov 11, 2019 at 09:42 PM Author: GE101R

My area which is GEC, has one MV NEMA still in use, surprisingly. Yet Duke Energy still have quite a few MV NEMA streetlights, around downtown amazingly. Otherwise rest of NEMAs are all HPS.

My hometown co-op has a GE Powr Bracket and an American Electric BIA, both from the mid sixties and both still operating behind a tall fence at the water plant. I called the co-op and asked if I could have them when they are replaced and they agreed. Hope they remember.
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Nov 12, 2019 at 05:37 AM Author: streetlight98
There are still a number of mv street lights in use here but they aren't maintained and are replaced with hps as they fail. The towns with the most mv here have converted to led already.

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