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Decorative Street Lights in Ottawa

Decorative Street Lights in Ottawa

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The lights in this picture are all decorative. Left: Leotek GreenCobra GC2s (Formerly decorative street lights from Philips (Signify) Lumec) on a decorative arms. Right: Metal Halide decorative post top fixtures.

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Manufacturer:Multiple Manufactuers
Model Reference:Multiple References
Lamp
Lamp Type:LED and Metal Halide
Shape/Finish:Black
Service Life:15 Years, 3 Years,
Fixture
Fixture Type:LED Cobrahead Replacement and Decorative Post Top
Arm Type:Decorative
Location:Wellington Street (west-end part), Ottawa, Canada
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Factory Location:Multiple Locations
Application/Use:Roadway

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Jul 31, 2020 at 02:41 PM Author: joseph_125
Too bad they opted for generic LED luminaires. The exact same luminaire as what was previously used is also available in LED.
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Jul 31, 2020 at 02:57 PM Author: The Cooper OVX

Too bad they opted for generic LED luminaires. The exact same luminaire as what was previously used is also available in LED.


They should have used the LED version of the previous lights but they are "too expensive" according to the City of Ottawa.

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Jul 31, 2020 at 02:58 PM Author: sox35
They should have used proper lamps.

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Jul 31, 2020 at 03:07 PM Author: The Cooper OVX

They should have used proper lamps.



Ummm.... They actually did use proper LED street lights for this.

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Jul 31, 2020 at 03:11 PM Author: HPS_250

They should have used proper lamps.


Agreed! HID are the proper lamps for this purpose, not generic LEDs.

I like all kinds of lighting and electrical, especially HIDs and street lights!
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Jul 31, 2020 at 03:14 PM Author: sox35
Governments over here are starting to realise that L*D's are not as environmentally friendly as they were made out to be

Oops, too late, nobody's making HID lamps any more

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Jul 31, 2020 at 03:16 PM Author: The Cooper OVX

Agreed! HID are the proper lamps for this purpose, not generic LEDs.


I agree with that. Some companies still make HID lights but they still make more LEDs than HIDs.

http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/lighting/products/roadway_lighting.html
https://www.signify.com/en-us/products/outdoor-luminaires/road-and-urban-lighting/road/cobra-heads
https://www.acuitybrands.com/products/outdoor/roadway#t=ablProducts&sort=relevancy&layout=card

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Jul 31, 2020 at 03:35 PM Author: HPS_250

Governments over here are starting to realise that L*D's are not as environmentally friendly as they were made out to be

Oops, too late, nobody's making HID lamps any more


They should have just noticed that in the first place.
LEDs don’t really last as long as advertised and are definitely not as efficient as originally thought.

I like all kinds of lighting and electrical, especially HIDs and street lights!
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Power company: SCE (Southern California Edison) 120V, 60HZ
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Jul 31, 2020 at 03:51 PM Author: The Cooper OVX

They should have just noticed that in the first place.
LEDs don’t really last as long as advertised and are definitely not as efficient as originally thought.


A lot of LEDs in Detroit have burned out and lasted 3 years despite being warranted for 10 years. Somebody needs to explain how they are "Energy Efficient" because they seem to be worse than HID at times.

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Jul 31, 2020 at 04:08 PM Author: CreeRSW207

They should have just noticed that in the first place.
LEDs don’t really last as long as advertised and are definitely not as efficient as originally thought.

They may be energy savers, but when they burn out in a year they have to pay $100-$200 for a replacement instead of paying $20 for a bulb switch.

Long live Mercury Vapor and Incandescent street lighting!

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Jul 31, 2020 at 04:14 PM Author: The Cooper OVX

They may be energy savers, but when they burn out in a year they have to pay $100-$200 for a replacement instead of paying $20 for a bulb switch.


Great to know. LED is not as efficient as we all thought.

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Jul 31, 2020 at 08:38 PM Author: joseph_125
The lack of standardized replacement parts compared to HID is a bit of an issue, especially in situations with more decorative luminaires where it is desired to have matching lights. I'm glad that I heard the EU is trying to curtail the waste of dead LED luminaires by pushing to have lumainires with more standardized parts and be more repairable.

That being said, the LED fixtures installed in my area in 2014-2015 have fairly pretty well. Only a few have failed and those got replaced with HID cobraheads ironically.
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Jul 31, 2020 at 09:20 PM Author: The Cooper OVX

The lack of standardized replacement parts compared to HID is a bit of an issue, especially in situations with more decorative luminaires where it is desired to have matching lights. I'm glad that I heard the EU is trying to curtail the waste of dead LED luminaires by pushing to have lumainires with more standardized parts and be more repairable.

That being said, the LED fixtures installed in my area in 2014-2015 have fairly pretty well. Only a few have failed and those got replaced with HID cobraheads ironically.


Agreed! A disgusting thing is that the city said on a 2017 PDF file that decorative lights were not being converted or installed as LED because of "Higher Fixture Costs" but they replaced many of them anyways with standard LED (Mostly Leotek GreenCobras) and they still do it. What's worse is that The City of Ottawa is installing more black LED street lights in areas where decorative fixtures should be used and they still replace them. What is even more worse is that old gumballs and teardrops on parkways are being replaced by Leotek GreenCobras in the city some arms stay and some get replaced by Black LED street lights on black diagonal arm poles.

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Jul 31, 2020 at 09:50 PM Author: joseph_125
Hmmm. Ironically in my city, they deferred conversion of the pedestrian path and decorative fixtures and those remain HPS to this day.

One street that had recently (at the time) installed Lumec Capellas also got spared as they chose not to convert because of how much life was left in the fixtures. Another street bordered the City of Toronto and was spared because Toronto wasn't converting their lights and they chose to keep it HPS to maintain a consistent appearance at night.
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Aug 01, 2020 at 04:56 AM Author: The Cooper OVX
Decorative, pedestrian, pathway and parking lot lights were going to be spared in Ottawa but many of them were replaced by regular LEDs.

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Aug 01, 2020 at 08:15 AM Author: sox35

Great to know. LED is not as efficient as we all thought.

I never once thought they were efficient as such. I did think they were mildly interesting when they first came out for household use, and I even tried one or two just to see what they were like, but they didn't last long and the incandescents soon went back in.

My big peeve with them is the lack of choice we have been given. I don't care if they're the most efficient and wonderful light source ever invented, I want choice in what I use in my own home, where I'm the one paying the bills. It's almost impossible to buy traditional light bulbs in stores any more, all there is is L*D. As for street lighting, the ones around here are nothing short of glare bombs with large patches of darkness in between them. On the main shopping streets, if it weren't for the light from shop windows, you'd hardly be able to see at all.

And I don't care what anyone says, white is not the best colour for street lighting.

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Aug 01, 2020 at 08:44 AM Author: The Cooper OVX

I never once thought they were efficient as such. I did think they were mildly interesting when they first came out for household use, and I even tried one or two just to see what they were like, but they didn't last long and the incandescents soon went back in.

My big peeve with them is the lack of choice we have been given. I don't care if they're the most efficient and wonderful light source ever invented, I want choice in what I use in my own home, where I'm the one paying the bills. It's almost impossible to buy traditional light bulbs in stores any more, all there is is L*D. As for street lighting, the ones around here are nothing short of glare bombs with large patches of darkness in between them. On the main shopping streets, if it weren't for the light from shop windows, you'd hardly be able to see at all.

And I don't care what anyone says, white is not the best colour for street lighting.

That's right.

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Aug 01, 2020 at 08:47 AM Author: LAllenLighting
I hate when LEDs replace fixtures that have only been up for a couple of years. I'm in Spain at the moment, and when I got here I was horrified to see that a couple of streets of HPS fixtures installed around Jan. 2019 had been replaced some time from January to July of this year with LED!!! What a waste.
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Aug 01, 2020 at 09:04 AM Author: The Cooper OVX

I hate when LEDs replace fixtures that have only been up for a couple of years. I'm in Spain at the moment, and when I got here I was horrified to see that a couple of streets of HPS fixtures installed around Jan. 2019 had been replaced some time from January to July of this year with LED!!! What a waste.


I hate that too. these Capellas were decorative and they could of used the LED versions or just put an LED bulb. Don't replace the entire thing.

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Aug 01, 2020 at 09:29 AM Author: CreeRSW207

I hate when LEDs replace fixtures that have only been up for a couple of years. I'm in Spain at the moment, and when I got here I was horrified to see that a couple of streets of HPS fixtures installed around Jan. 2019 had been replaced some time from January to July of this year with LED!!! What a waste.

That happened here too with a bunch of new Cooper OVZs.

Long live Mercury Vapor and Incandescent street lighting!

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Aug 01, 2020 at 11:17 AM Author: joseph_125

I hate that too. these Capellas were decorative and they could of used the LED versions or just put an LED bulb. Don't replace the entire thing.


TBH, they probably could have retrofitted them to LED. The HID and LED models should use the same housing anyway. Just different internals.
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Aug 01, 2020 at 01:16 PM Author: The Cooper OVX

TBH, they probably could have retrofitted them to LED. The HID and LED models should use the same housing anyway. Just different internals.


Yep. They need to do that or just use a better lighting source.

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