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Chandelier at Notre-Dame-de-Paris

Chandelier at Notre-Dame-de-Paris

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This is a large chandelier that is taken down for restoration in the Cathédrale Notre-Dame-de=Paris. They are renovating the lighting system, and if this chandelier follows what has happened to the others, unfortunately it will be LED. The other chandeliers have that annoying cheap Chinese Christmas light flicker.

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Apr 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM Author: Raphael
It seems it collected a lot of dust over the years.

Nothing can escape the LED.
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Apr 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM Author: Ash
Was it dummy with candles untill now ?
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Apr 15, 2012 at 10:56 AM Author: dor123
This looks like a candles based chandelier. There are no ways to convert it to an electrical fixture.
The only option is to replace it with a new electrical chandelier.

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230-240V, 50hz country.

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Apr 15, 2012 at 02:43 PM Author: sol
It has been converted to electricity some time ago. If you look at the full size image, you can see wires especially in the cups holding the candles.
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Apr 15, 2012 at 03:25 PM Author: Ash
And.... How about glow discharge lamps ?
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Apr 15, 2012 at 03:28 PM Author: Skiller
Are there incandescent christmas lights inside the "candles"?
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Apr 15, 2012 at 05:41 PM Author: sol
I think this chandelier had incandescent lamps, but they were removed when it was taken down. I could not see any kind of lamp, but it is obvious by the amount of dust on the wires that there was something in the candles (ie the wiring is not new). If I were to decide what goes in there, it would be incandescent lamps as that is what gives the closest colour of real candles. Unfortunately, the other chandeliers in the cathedral were relamped with LED. As Raphael put it, nothing can escape the LED.
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Apr 15, 2019 at 05:12 PM Author: sol
I wonder if this one survived...
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Apr 15, 2019 at 05:17 PM Author: Globe Collector
I saw a news article this morning that intonated that this most famous of buildings has caught on fire.

Manufactured articles should be made to be used, not made to be sold!

Fee, Fye, Fow, Fum, A dead man's eye and a parrot's BUM!

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Apr 15, 2019 at 05:18 PM Author: Lumex120
Yeah pretty shocking to hear what happened today. It sounds like the entire roof collapsed now so it seems unlikely this survived, unfortunately.

Any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.

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Apr 15, 2019 at 05:26 PM Author: sol
I've seen pictures from the aftermath, taken at midnight. It seems as if most of the interior survived. There are holes in the vaulted ceiling, though, but most of it appears intact. That is according to lemonde.fr, a French daily newspaper.

In vaulted ceiling architecture, it is somewhat deceiving as the summit of the vaulted ceiling is well below the summit of the outside roof. What you see inside and what you see outside are separated by much more distance than you think. The roof collapsed, but the vaulted ceiling inside stayed mostly intact.

A fundraising campaign was launched and I believe it will be rebuilt. It will take a long time, though.
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Apr 15, 2019 at 07:15 PM Author: Globe Collector
One image showed a lot of scaffolding around the structure...so what started it? ....Somebody welding up there and sparks dropped into the ceiling space between the roof and vaulted ceiling....where I could imagine there would have been a far few old bird's nests???

Manufactured articles should be made to be used, not made to be sold!

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Apr 15, 2019 at 07:31 PM Author: wide-lite 1000

One image showed a lot of scaffolding around the structure...so what started it? ....Somebody welding up there and sparks dropped into the ceiling space between the roof and vaulted ceiling....where I could imagine there would have been a far few old bird's nests???


Or maybe a cigarette? A few years ago there was a massive fire at a pallet and cardboard recycling company here in Columbus that was started by 2 employees (probably now former employees), smoking in the storage yard (a MAJOR NO-NO! ) That mess burned for almost 2 days!

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Apr 15, 2019 at 07:51 PM Author: sol
I believe they are treating it as a workplace accident. Some workers have been asked to speak with the authorities...

Meanwhile, the media is reporting that the structure is globally saved, however the fire is not completely out yet. There are extensive talks about fundraising and starting to rebuild. Whatever happens regarding rebuilding or restoring, it will be a decades long project most likely.
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Apr 18, 2019 at 05:01 PM Author: Men of God
对于巴黎圣母院被火烧,我们中国人绝对有发言权,大部分网民都觉得这是因果轮回,谁叫你们法国人联合英国人在1860年火烧圆明园了呢?不过话说回来,我们后世中国人没有亲眼看过圆明园,然后我初中同学告诉我说他当时去看过圆明园遗址,他只想杀光那些火烧圆明园的人…

我不会英文,所以我用中文,请你们用翻译网站翻译我打的字!

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Apr 19, 2019 at 06:00 AM Author: rjluna2

对于巴黎圣母院被火烧,我们中国人绝对有发言权,大部分网民都觉得这是因果轮回,谁叫你们法国人联合英国人在1860年火烧圆明园了呢?不过话说回来,我们后世中国人没有亲眼看过圆明园,然后我初中同学告诉我说他当时去看过圆明园遗址,他只想杀光那些火烧圆明园的人…

Oh yeah the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Opium_War

Pretty, please no more Chinese failure.

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Apr 19, 2019 at 06:44 AM Author: Men of God
emmmm,我们中国的历史课本上并没有讲当时的英国使节约翰·莫伊斯因为拒绝跪拜中国士兵而被逮捕关押并处死的事情,我刚刚在我们中国的网络查了一下约翰·莫伊斯这个人,根本查不到,也就是说被屏蔽词条了…只能说英国人是元凶,法国人是帮凶,最后法国人也替英国人背了锅…

我不会英文,所以我用中文,请你们用翻译网站翻译我打的字!

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Apr 19, 2019 at 07:02 AM Author: HU112

emmmm,我们中国的历史课本上并没有讲当时的英国使节约翰·莫伊斯因为拒绝跪拜中国士兵而被逮捕关押并处死的事情,我刚刚在我们中国的网络查了一下约翰·莫伊斯这个人,根本查不到,也就是说被屏蔽词条了…只能说英国人是元凶,法国人是帮凶,最后法国人也替英国人背了锅…

There are quite a lot of things the Chinese government don’t want you to know.
Btw, the Qing dynasty isn’t even established by genuine Chinese, they are invaders too.

No more cheapy crappy Chinese junk, please.

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Apr 19, 2019 at 08:46 AM Author: Jovan
I hope your Church would be reconstructed.
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Apr 19, 2019 at 08:52 AM Author: dor123
The Israeli media said that the fire caused because of a short circuit.

I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.
Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.

I only working with the European date format (dd.mm.yyyy).

I lives in Israel, which is a 230-240V, 50hz country.

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Apr 19, 2019 at 09:01 AM Author: Lightingguy1994
Why not LED filament bulbs? They make them in candelabra size
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Apr 19, 2019 at 09:11 AM Author: Lumex120
I don't think they had LED filament bulbs in 2012.

Any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.

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Apr 19, 2019 at 09:15 AM Author: Lightingguy1994
No but I mean for this one thats about to get LED

Edit: I see this is an old photo, I thought it was recent due to the news of the fire. My apologies
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Apr 19, 2019 at 09:31 AM Author: Binarix128

I don't think they had LED filament bulbs in 2012.

Me too, but in these years maybe can used ugly LED corn lamps!

-I dont speak English very well. Compact Fluorescent (PL)
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Apr 19, 2019 at 09:48 AM Author: sol
In 2012, when this picture was taken, the other chandeliers in the basilica had clear plastic lamps with an opaque white cup around the base. They had a series of diodes visible from the ground. They were between 3000K and 3500K and had a CRI in the 70's at best. They had a very annoying 100Hz flicker. When I visited in 2007 and in 2009, they were all incandescent and looked very good and had a nice quality sparkling light.

Now, I'm not sure what type of lamps they had recently, but I can imagine if they had nice high quality 3000K or lower, high CRI, flicker free filament LED, then it would look quite good. I am quite sure they will install all new lamps during the restoration.
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Apr 19, 2019 at 10:28 AM Author: rom1
all the chandeliers were spared by the fire

Never sell the bear's skin before one has killed the beast

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Apr 19, 2019 at 10:34 AM Author: rom1
https://www.20minutes.fr/paris/1321018-20140312-led-eclairer-voutes-dame-paris today all the interior and exterior lighting of the cathedral are led lights ,the warm white color has been chosen for the chandeliers in the interiors

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Apr 19, 2019 at 03:01 PM Author: Men of God
万幸只是补分木头屋顶被烧毁而已,还好没有太严重的损毁,等圣母院重新开放游览后我一定要去参观一下!

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Apr 19, 2019 at 03:02 PM Author: Men of God
是的!不过昨晚我们的“皇上”好像开恩了,没有翻墙居然可以接收到YouTube的通知还有Facebook的messenger的消息,但是我这边不能回复,也就是说墙外的可以在墙内接收,但是墙内的传不出来墙外!

我不会英文,所以我用中文,请你们用翻译网站翻译我打的字!

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