1   General / General Discussion / Re: They made Low Pressure Sodium Synthwave...  on: Today at 07:29:03 PM 
Started by subway5411 - Last post by subway5411
Yep, that looks like a Thorn Alpha 4? There also used to be one at Hwy 9 and Mount Hope Road which I took a pic of a long time ago. Back in 2015 I tried to go after these two fixtures, but the lady on the phone (who was really helpful) said they had no idea who owned the poles?  ::) Eventually in 2018 or so, the one on Mount Hope Road was replaced with a Cooper HPS fixture. Kinda ticked me off too, I hate seeing SOX fixtures being scrapped when I knew I could've had (or did have) a chance at saving them. I now treat all SOX sightings as an immediate "GET ON THEIR ASS NOW" calling routine.
 2   General / General Discussion / Re: They made Low Pressure Sodium Synthwave...  on: Today at 07:22:56 PM 
Started by subway5411 - Last post by joseph_125
Some nice shots of them on the B-roll in that CBC video but I wonder if anymore videos of a nighttime drive of them exist.

As for that last remaining SOX fixture on the Gardiner. I believe Priestly Demoltion handled the demolition of that ramp so I wonder if any of the luminaires ended up at their salvage yard up in northern Vaughan.

Yeah, I noticed the SOX at the former Philips HQ at 601 Milner but they got LEDized before I managed to snap a picture of them. There's also a random SOX 180 light in Caledon. I think it's a Thorn model which was used as spot replacements on parts of the Gardiner. 
 3   General / General Discussion / Re: They made Low Pressure Sodium Synthwave...  on: Today at 07:09:13 PM 
Started by subway5411 - Last post by subway5411
Unfortunately it seems like that "Night Walk" video is the only video of them in existence.

Thankfully those aren't the only videos of them in existence, doing some deep searching on YouTube eventually yields some cool daytime footage of the SOX lanterns. However finding other footage of a drive at night is nearly impossible.
Closest I could find was this CBC news report on when they considered shutting them off... it has some really neat B-Roll footage: https://www.cbc.ca/archives/toronto-highway-lights-1.5888202

Also I found out about that last standing SOX fixture on the Gardiner a couple months ago, and I was gonna have a try at saving it. However when I did eventually decide to research it a but more last week, I realized they JUST demolished the F*****G ramp. Talk about bad timing haha!

I also knew about the old SOX fixtures at 601 Milner Avenue in Scarborough (old Philips electronics headquarters) for a long time, and even went to see them at night at one point. They were the same as the Gardiner fixtures, and were in the process of replacing them with LED. They eventually did change them all out with LED in 2019 (which pissed me off) but we had already moved across Canada, therefore being unable to know/do anything.
 4   General / General Discussion / Re: They made Low Pressure Sodium Synthwave...  on: Today at 06:57:54 PM 
Started by subway5411 - Last post by joseph_125
Yeah, I was just going to comment that I got a very strong old school Gardiner vibe from that first video. Those SOX lights there used to fascinate me as a kid. Unfortunately it seems like that "Night Walk" video is the only video of them in existence. Unfortunately video technology in the 1980s was rather primitive in terms of resolution compared to today.

Even driving down the modern Gardiner with it's HPS lighting has a nice nighttime vibe to it. Fortunately they haven't LEDized the Gardiner yet.
 5   General / General Discussion / Re: Does anyone actually like HPS?  on: Today at 06:32:14 PM 
Started by Morbid Angel - Last post by sox35
@subway5411 - Hey, you make as much sense as anybody else in this madhouse  :mrg:

I agree, now I'm getting older, I miss the things I knew and loved in my childhood, I think we all do to some extent. Lighting-wise, I've always loved LPS the most; a 45W SOI/H was one of the first discharge lamps I ever collected when I was but a very annoying small person, pestering the life out of engineers repairing or replacing lamps, that's how I got the SOI/H, complete with ballast  ;D

Now I'm a very annoying much older and larger person, but around here they tend to come and replace lights at silly o'clock when I'm asleep (in other words, mornings  @-@) so I don't tend to see them these days. 99.9% of the decent lighting in the city here is all gone now, anyway  :'(
 6   General / General Discussion / Re: Does anyone actually like HPS?  on: Today at 06:24:28 PM 
Started by Morbid Angel - Last post by subway5411
We always strive for the things that no longer exist... it's called nostalgia.

I have always said that I love Low Pressure Sodium, Mercury Vapor, T12 Fluorescent, and Incandescent. This was largely because of the fascinating principals behind those technologies, but that analogy could be just as easily said for all HID sources namely MH and HPS.
The reason I didn't include them in the above list was because they were so common everywhere and didn't give off that "far away, lost aesthetic" that relatively uncommon lamps did for me. Most of the lighting aesthetic and enjoyment for old technology is brought about by having something and reproducing a scene that basically "doesn't exist" anymore. It's really cool to be able to reproduce live scenes of the past.

Today however, with HID lamps like HPS in rapid decline, that feeling of nostalgia I originally exclusively felt when looking at those four light sources comes around when I see some HPS installs (if that makes sense). Basically, now that HPS has gone from everywhere to virtually nonexistent in my area over a couple months, I now feel nostalgic for some HPS scenes. No where near on the scale of MV, LPS, T12, and GLS, but it's still there none the less. I imagine this feeling will get greater as years go by and I'm sure many members here who have grown up with HPS and now see it gone will gradually start to feel the same. Basically, we take things with a grain of salt when they are common, but when they start to disappear we desperately want them back.

That's my opinion on this whole topic at least... hopefully I made sense!
 7   General / General Discussion / Re: What did you do today lighting wise?  on: Today at 06:03:07 PM 
Started by RyanF40T12 - Last post by Mandolin Girl
I love watching Ria work on the lamp boards, and I help when I can. :love:
 8   General / General Discussion / Re: What did you do today lighting wise?  on: Today at 06:01:24 PM 
Started by RyanF40T12 - Last post by sox35
Built a little board with a ballast lamp on it to run our 4ft Philips TL-X tube. Photos later..!
 9   General / General Discussion / They made Low Pressure Sodium Synthwave...  on: Today at 06:00:30 PM 
Started by subway5411 - Last post by subway5411
...and I LOVE it. The "fixtures" really add a cool vibe with the music.

https://youtu.be/9bVmTJ8nQPU

Not sure how many people are into this type of music, but it always somehow enhances my concentration, wellbeing, and of course interest in vintage lighting. This video specifically has oddly fitting music for the whole vibe of Low Pressure Sodium too.

On another note, try playing the video above unmuted in the background, while simultaneously playing and watching one of these below muted (or if you like jazz, just watch these unmuted). These videos show Toronto's Low Pressure Sodium system in action at night, and for myself this "synthwave" music adds a neat aesthetic. I might try an AI upscale of these videos someday because I'm sure this is the only footage in existence of Toronto's LPS system.

1: (Watch on 1.75x. They slowed it down.) https://youtu.be/-XCXdpDSIEk
2: https://youtu.be/I_4muNjiVyw
 10   General / Off-Topic / Re: Hoping for the best  on: Today at 05:59:26 PM 
Started by Morbid Angel - Last post by CreeRSW207
I'll see how I feel tomorrow morning and during the day, if nothing changes, I'll go to get it looked at.
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