Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #31 on: December 22, 2020, 10:36:32 AM » Author: Rommie
No, sadly discharge lighting has never been available retail over here. Wholesalers and in recent years places like eBay have been the only sources. Generally, people who buy discharge lighting here are people who know what they're doing with it (well usually, anyway..!)
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #33 on: December 22, 2020, 04:51:04 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Quote from: sox35 on December 22, 2020, 10:36:32 AM No, sadly discharge lighting has never been available retail over here. Wholesalers and in recent years places like eBay have been the only sources. Generally, people who buy discharge lighting here are people who know what they're doing with it (well usually, anyway..!)  A website like CP-Lighting or BLTDirect is a good place to shop for HID lighting in Britain. In addition, these sites also ship lamps, ballasts, and fixtures throughout the world. I personally bought some rare European 100w E27 coated Sylvania HPS lamps from BLT Direct for my own collection.
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #34 on: December 22, 2020, 05:58:58 PM » Author: Rommie
True, but these are not retail stores such as is common in the US.
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #35 on: December 22, 2020, 07:46:34 PM » Author: HPS_250
A common misconception in my opinion is that all HID is inefficient. When LED is advertised, the ads often make other lamp types seem much worse than they really are. For example, I once saw an LED advertisement that said LEDs last “10 times longer” because according to them, LED lasts 50,000 hours and HPS 5000 hours. The other most common misconception is simply believing false advertising.
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #36 on: December 22, 2020, 09:35:16 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Quote from: HPS_250 on December 22, 2020, 07:46:34 PM A common misconception in my opinion is that all HID is inefficient. When LED is advertised, the ads often make other lamp types seem much worse than they really are. For example, I once saw an LED advertisement that said LEDs last “10 times longer” because according to them, LED lasts 50,000 hours and HPS 5000 hours. The other most common misconception is simply believing false advertising. I personally have a fear that all of this LED stuff going on will potentially lead to pointless bulb bans of non-LED lighting in many countries.
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #38 on: December 22, 2020, 10:37:00 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Quote from: Binarix128 on December 22, 2020, 09:40:41 PM My friend that's already happening all over the world.  Do you have any evidence of any countries making outright bans on HID lighting?
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #41 on: December 23, 2020, 06:54:43 AM » Author: Mandolin Girl
It's not just the popularity, which is driven by the advertising campaigns, but the fact that manufacturers have a wider profit margin on L*Ds    They have introduced bans here, for new installations it must be cool white L*D
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #42 on: December 23, 2020, 03:09:23 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Quote from: Mandolin Girl on December 23, 2020, 06:54:43 AM It's not just the popularity, which is driven by the advertising campaigns, but the fact that manufacturers have a wider profit margin on L*Ds    They have introduced bans here, for new installations it must be cool white L*D  So, is this a law in all of the UK to not allow HID in new installations including CMH?
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #43 on: December 23, 2020, 05:48:35 PM » Author: AngryHorse
It’s more to do with the EU, people here though had a common misconception that HID will make a return when we’ve left the EU, but 3 of our biggest lighting factories have closed here since the millennium, so there’s little chance of that if it were even true!
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	Re: What are examples of common misconceptions about lighting? « Reply #44 on: December 23, 2020, 06:08:27 PM » Author: Rommie
Sadly, I fear you are right
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