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Title: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 08:07:55 PM
I was on a walk today and I happened to see at least 20 1000 watt HID ballasts by someone's front porch. The person who owned the house was outside and I asked if I could have the ballasts and this person had the audacity to tell me I couldn't because there was a "chemical" on them and they were "broken" but that "chemical" was the varnish and the ballasts are no more than 20 years old! I about yelled at them because they had the audacity to say that.  >:( :curse: :curse: :sadbulb:

Comment away!

I would love to have a 1000 watt ballast but I can't find them or like with this instance, I find a whole lot of them but I can't have them because the person thinks they pose a health hazard that is not there. Can you guys please help me find 1000 watt ballasts?
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: AZTECH on May 11, 2021, 08:23:54 PM
Understanding how do you feel, remember major people are just dont want liability for any happend to you. (Your parent could sue them)

Ballast might not contain any toxic things but still if you look like younger less than 20 yrs old. Almost many people will not risk giving you something potentially injury yourself. If you be polite and talk softly like pro to stranger they probably will try work with you.

The 1000w ballast still fairly many around for sale but rarely give away for free. Because it contains lot copper.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: sox35 on May 11, 2021, 08:24:34 PM
Hmmmm. At the end of the day, the owner has the right to do what they want with their own property, so I don't see you have any comeback. Put it behind you and move on, it's not worth getting angry over.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 08:28:05 PM
Understanding how do you feel, remember major people are just dont want liability for any happend to you. (Your parent could sue them)

Ballast might not contain any toxic things but still if you look like younger less than 20 yrs old. Almost many people will not risk giving you something potentially injury yourself. If you be polite and talk softly like pro to stranger they probably will try work with you.

The 1000w ballast still fairly many around for sale but rarely give away for free. Because it contains lot copper.

I tried to tell them that it was just varnish but they went back inside without answering me.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 08:29:09 PM
Hmmmm. At the end of the day, the owner has the right to do what they want with their own property, so I don't see you have any comeback. Put it behind you and move on, it's not worth getting angry over.

Understandable. The problem was is that they were rude to me from the beginning.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: sox35 on May 11, 2021, 08:31:24 PM
I get where you're coming from, but that's how some people are, sadly. I used to get upset at all sorts of things when I was your age, now I'm somewhat older I like to think I've mellowed a bit, although I do still feel the need to issue a few  :slap: now and then  :mrg:
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: AZTECH on May 11, 2021, 08:32:18 PM
I tried to tell them that it was just varnish but they went back inside without answering me.

Just let him go, he probably not nice person...Just don't hold your angry it will never wins. But you can wins other day! Just keep looking elsewhere and you might find the best moments.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 08:33:26 PM
I get where you're coming from, but that's how some people are, sadly. I used to get upset at all sorts of things when I was your age, now I'm somewhat older I like to think I've mellowed a bit, although I do still feel the need to issue a few  :slap: now and then  :mrg:

Hey, at least they will be in the dumpster soon so I can dig them all out.   :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 08:34:23 PM
Just let him go, he probably not nice person...Just don't hold your angry it will never wins. But you can wins other day! Just keep looking elsewhere and you might find the best moments.

They should be in the dumpster soon so that's good, I can dig them out!
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: AZTECH on May 11, 2021, 08:41:57 PM
They should be in the dumpster soon so that's good, I can dig them out!

Sure you can, just careful if its same guy seeing you again they might call police. Some cities have strictly ordinance about dump diving can be illegal and could fined or prison time for short. Know what's in your area and avoid troubles.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 08:43:33 PM
Sure you can, just careful if its same guy seeing you again they might call police. Some cities have strictly ordinance about dump diving can be illegal and could fined or prison time for short. Know what's in your area and avoid troubles.

It's at my grandma's mobile home park and nobody cares if you dig in the dumpster and besides, I am sneaky about it.  :lol:
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: AZTECH on May 11, 2021, 08:52:21 PM
If dumpster owned by mobile home park landlord so it probably don't care what you doing with garbage stuffs but only all you need to wait for rude dude throw ballast in dumpster then walk away then you can grab it easy.

But there small chance rude dude might want recycled the metal copper for money so you get nothing but some of can of PCB or non PCB capacitors.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
If dumpster owned by mobile home park landlord so it probably don't care what you doing with garbage stuffs but only all you need to wait for rude dude throw ballast in dumpster then walk away then you can grab it easy.

But there small chance rude dude might want recycled the metal copper for money so you get nothing but some of can of PCB or non PCB capacitors.

I will just have to see.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: HPSM250R2 on May 11, 2021, 09:03:57 PM
I would think the owners would scrap the ballasts to get some money out of them instead of throwing them in a dumpster.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: funkybulb on May 11, 2021, 09:17:54 PM
Wth copper nearing 5 dollars a pound
 A 1 KW ballast will  have 6 to 10 pounds
 Of copper in them.  So yes it going make it
 Much harder to find ballast. 

  I can see those mercury ballast been sitting for high price for years ended up gettng scrapped out.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: AZTECH on May 11, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
Wth copper nearing 5 dollars a pound
 A 1 KW ballast will  have 6 to 10 pounds
 Of copper in them.  So yes it going make it
 Much harder to find ballast. 

  I can see those mercury ballast been sitting for high price for years ended up gettng scrapped out.

Yea that explain a lot sense. If rude dude already have pile of 20x of ballast 1kw its lot copper for money!
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 09:27:07 PM
Yea that explain a lot sense. If rude dude already have pile of 20x of ballast 1kw its lot copper for money!

It would be better if they went to a good home where they would get preserved than to get scrapped.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: HPSM250R2 on May 11, 2021, 09:31:57 PM
It would be better if they went to a good home where they would get preserved than to get scrapped.

Yeah but as the owner of those ballasts, if he has the option to give them to you for free or sell them to you for a cheap price, or go and scrap them and possibly get $50 for each ballast which one do you think he is going to do? lol.
If he has 20 ballasts that's potentially $1,000 worth of copper.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: joseph_125 on May 11, 2021, 10:29:12 PM
Yeah it's a bit unfortunate but the scrap value of so many 1000w ballasts might be enticing. Perhaps if you initially offered to pay a fair price, say scrap value for one, they would have reacted better. They also might think you're a scrapper looking for a quick buck if you ask for all of them IMO.

In my area, 1000w MH ballasts are around $25 used so I think offering $10 for one would be somewhat fair.   

That being said, if they do end up in the dumpster and it's legal to dumpster dive in your area, then by all means grab them.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 11, 2021, 10:33:12 PM
Yeah it's a bit unfortunate but the scrap value of so many 1000w ballasts might be enticing. Perhaps if you initially offered to pay a fair price, say scrap value for one, they would have reacted better. They also might think you're a scrapper looking for a quick buck if you ask for all of them IMO.

In my area, 1000w MH ballasts are around $25 used so I think offering $10 for one would be somewhat fair.

I stated to the person that I was wanting them so I could reuse them. I also stated that I collect ballasts and I was wanting these to add to my collection (there were a few MV ballasts in there) but noooooooooo, they are too "dangerous". I also said I know how to use them but that got me nowhere.

You bet I will grab them if they end up in the dumpster!
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: CreeRSW207 on May 12, 2021, 05:48:57 PM
Mobile home park
That explains it.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: sox35 on May 12, 2021, 05:49:45 PM
It's at my grandma's mobile home park and nobody cares if you dig in the dumpster and besides, I am sneaky about it.  :lol:
It's probably not a good idea to talk about being sneaky, it could be interpreted the wrong way by some people. It might be ok at this location, but that's not going to be the case everywhere.

Probably time to wrap this up, folks.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: AZTECH on May 12, 2021, 06:13:59 PM
It's probably not a good idea to talk about being sneaky, it could be interpreted the wrong way by some people. It might be ok at this location, but that's not going to be the case everywhere.

Probably time to wrap this up, folks.

I agreed with Ria.

I do notice there few people do get easy offend word "sneaky" similar to word trespass but for me I do not care much about dumpster and I am used to see many time one of my tenant like to dig up something inside the dumpster or garbage cans in my own home mobile park. Rare to see outsiders stranger messing around my garbage stuffs and dump illegal stuffs which I do not like it.

Just try be humble yourself and no need to tell us about your deep detail of actions. But just display interesting something things if you already got one.
Title: Re: I am SOOOOOO mad right now!
Post by: thelightingman on May 13, 2021, 10:00:00 AM
Ok, I have gotten over it.