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Lamps => Modern => Topic started by: nogden on July 23, 2019, 03:25:05 PM
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The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 states that "If the Secretary fails to complete a rulemaking in accordance with clauses (i) through (iv) or if the final rule does not produce savings that are greater than or equal to the savings from a minimum efficacy standard of 45 lumens per watt, effective beginning January 1, 2020,
the Secretary shall prohibit the sale of any general service lamp that does not meet a minimum efficacy standard of 45 lumens per watt."
Does anyone know if this is still going to happen? In other words, will general service halogen lamps "go away" at the end of this year?
Please, let's not get into politics here. We've beat the "lamp ban" issue enough. I'm just curious if anyone knows whether the 2020 mandate is still going to happen.
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The 1/1/2016 mercury lamp ban was cancelled because it was determined that it was pointless. I'd assume the same thing happened to this one. And to be honest, I can't see our current president ever wanting to pass something like this.
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The 1/1/2016 mercury lamp ban was cancelled because it was determined that it was pointless. I'd assume the same thing happened to this one. And to be honest, I can't see our current president ever wanting to pass something like this.
I concur
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Well U got Rick Perry In DOE He very Pro Incadescent
He Tried to bring Incandescent Lamp making to Texas. I dont Think there will be any enforcement action there.
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Good to hear!
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Personally, I'd like to see fluorescent lamps phased out. This is mainly due to maintenance people being idiots.
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Ugh I hate seeing smashed fluorescent bulbs in dumpsters like that. ::)
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With the current administration and political climate, it wouldn't surprise me if this ban isn't enacted, but we'll see. It wouldn't impact me anyway, I have lots of NOS bulbs to use. Now, would incandescents in 40/60/75/100 watt come back? That I'm unsure of.
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Here in Canada, the government intends to ban almost all discharge lamps on account of mercury disposal problems. From what I understand, it will become illegal to manufacture or import fluorescent lamps by 2023 and most of the rest would go by 2028.
Now, I don’t know if this will affect orders on eBay, for example. I hope not, but I’m considering stocking up.
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I've read a number of articles, and I haven't found it stated anywhere that the tighter restrictions won't be going in place next year. Does anyone know if California has further limited the sale of general purpose halogen lamps? I believe they were implementing them a year in advance.
I have seen the current administration pushing back on an expansion to the definition of general purpose lamps, which would have regulated 3-Way, rough service, and non-A shaped lamps. I've seen less about anything that would stop the enactment of the rules on the books since the Bush years.
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I'm concerned that although the political climate is not favorable to further lamp bans, the "ball is already rolling" and its not a big enough issue for anyone to bother stopping right now.
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Ugh I hate seeing smashed fluorescent bulbs in dumpsters like that. ::)
Why?
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I don't know how much mercury is in today's fluorescent lamps, but they represent about 80% of the total mercury content in lighting. Compact fluorescent lamps contain only 4 mg of mercury. The mercury content for early lamps was rather high. Mercury is also bound in an amalgam in HID lamps which is hard to break down in the environment, supposedly.
Due to the Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive 2002/95/EC, EU nations have strictly limited the use of mercury which effectively bans the use of it in lighting as well as cadmium and lead.
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Well if this the case then I'm not going to bother collecting streetlights. Or at least HID ones. Because it will be difficult to get lamps. Or else they will be overpriced collectors items than something comfortable using. ::)
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Why?
Because of the mercury it releases. I mean, I know it's not that much but still.
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Oh come on. I got enough HID lamps for life. Just have a nice stash of old school Lifeguard mercury lamps. They'll last a life time.
Well if this the case then I'm not going to bother collecting streetlights. Or at least HID ones. Because it will be difficult to get lamps. Or else they will be overpriced collectors items than something comfortable using. ::)
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Well if this the case then I'm not going to bother collecting streetlights. Or at least HID ones. Because it will be difficult to get lamps. Or else they will be overpriced collector's items than something comfortable using. ::)
You can always try. Or try to make an HID lamp like WattMaster's trying to do. ;)
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I asked Sylvania/Ledvance customer service about this. Here is their response:
The standards do not necessarily tighten on January 1st. DOE must still make a determination whether to amend the existing standards, and we don’t expect that to be made until later this year. It’s a bit complicated, but DOE has stated publicly that they do not believe the “backstop” goes into effect on 1/1/20. See attached presentation
In answer to his direct question, LEDVANCE does – and will – comply with all laws and regulations in effect.
Thanks,
Jenn
Jennifer R. Dolin, LC, LEED AP
Head of Government Affairs and Sustainability
Compliance Officer, USC
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Oh come on. I got enough HID lamps for life. Just have a nice stash of old school Lifeguard mercury lamps. They'll last a life time.
All you need is one :)
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Whats this about Canada banning all mercury containing lamps in 2023?!
I thought things were more LAX here, think I know which political party leader in Canada is the cause of this problem but I wont name.. this is an assault to lighting enthusiasts like me
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In Canada, it's not only lamps. Environment Canada is in the midst of heavily regulating mercury content in a variety of things. Since LED lamps are available, they strongly suggest you buy them instead of Hg ones, and will "gradually" instill a phaseout with a ban between 2023 and 2028.
Sounds like I'll be collecting a bit more vigorously than before...
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Wow i better finish up my collecting efforts while I can and take care of what i do have. No insurance can replace that stuff