51   General / General Discussion / Re: Types of Electric Discharge  on: July 10, 2025, 04:10:14 PM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by Alex
Have you requestet the associated paper?
 52   Lamps / Modern / Re: What's the typical LED bulb efficiency (l/w) in your country?  on: July 10, 2025, 02:42:49 PM 
Started by macusking - Last post by AngryHorse
Under European directives our LED are an average of 117 lm/W, i.e, a 13 watt filament LED is 1521 lumens 😎
CFL here are the same as Brazil @ 60+ lm/W
 53   Lamps / Modern / Re: What's the typical LED bulb efficiency (l/w) in your country?  on: July 10, 2025, 02:33:45 PM 
Started by macusking - Last post by Laurens
Essentially 3 flavors:
- Bog standard 100lm/w CRI 80 - also usually what's in fixtures with non user replaceable electronics.
- Ultra efficient home use 210lm/w cri a claimed 80, but with a very clear color tint shift (not at the black body radiator white point, pretty bad)
- Ultra high color quality 90lm/w, CRI 94.

The standard and the ultra efficient ones are the easiest to just buy in stores, but if you order online you can also easily get the others.

 54   Lamps / Modern / What's the typical LED bulb efficiency (l/w) in your country?  on: July 10, 2025, 02:17:51 PM 
Started by macusking - Last post by macusking
Here in Brazil the regular led bulbs are pretty garbage both in operating life and power efficiency.
the norm is something like 89 l/w, some bulbs get as low as 80 l/w. Both 3000k and 6400k variants.
At the same time, we had some CFLs with 64 l/w, almost as high as the LEDs.

In your country, how efficient are they?  :eoled:
 55   General / General Discussion / Re: Types of Electric Discharge  on: July 10, 2025, 10:43:31 AM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by dor123
You need a long tube to see this.
 56   General / General Discussion / Re: Types of Electric Discharge  on: July 10, 2025, 10:42:12 AM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by Multisubject
@dor123
I am well aware of that, but when running a neon indicator on DC, only negative glow discharge is observed.
 57   General / General Discussion / Re: Does anyone miss the sodium streetlights?  on: July 10, 2025, 10:04:56 AM 
Started by phosco179 - Last post by Maxim
Okay, so for me HPS is a bit of a double-edged sword. I think it's more effective at lighting major expressways and thoroughfares (especially in the rain), but MV/LED are far superior in every other application. Residential areas should[/b] be white or at least some form of white in color– things look kind of drab and even apocalyptic in the 2100K of HPS.

So, for me, the personal preference is to keep older mercury fixtures alive through retrofits (think the GE PowrDoor), and to keep expressways and major thoroughfares LED-free. Unfortunately, however, my opinion means diddly squat, so I guess I just have to learn to adapt to the harsh light of 4000K-5000K freeway LEDs. It was good while it lasted, however. Philadelphia only started going LED in 2023/2024, which is far later than nearly every city across the country.
 58   General / General Discussion / Re: Types of Electric Discharge  on: July 10, 2025, 10:04:40 AM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by dor123
You must run the tube at DC to watch the various discharge properly. At AC, all of these discharges changes location very fast.
 59   General / Off-Topic / Re: Bought a camera...  on: July 10, 2025, 09:56:34 AM 
Started by Maxim - Last post by Maxim
Thanks, Sol!  :crswlktimer:
 60   General / General Discussion / Types of Electric Discharge  on: July 10, 2025, 09:56:21 AM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by Multisubject
I found this picture describing types of discharges in a tube:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-schematic-of-the-dc-glow-discharge-showing-the-several-distinct-regions-that-appear_fig3_320454510
This is all fine and dandy, but I have questions:

1) Color Differences:
From what I have seen, the color of a positive-column discharge is usually different than the negative-glow discharge, even when the same filler is used. Why is this?

2) Presence of different glows:
In a neon indicator, there never seems to be any anode glow at all. What makes these certain glows appear in some discharges but not all?

Thanks!
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