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Will the 2023 fluorescent tube ban in Europe affect Australia? « on: July 27, 2021, 07:53:31 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
After learning that the European union and the UK will ban most fluorescent tubes by 2023, I am wondering if this same ban will affect fluorescent tubes in Australia.
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Re: Will the 2023 fluorescent tube ban in Europe affect Australia? « Reply #1 on: July 28, 2021, 01:24:44 AM » Author: Medved
Maybe with some delay?
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Re: Will the 2023 fluorescent tube ban in Europe affect Australia? « Reply #2 on: July 28, 2021, 01:44:48 AM » Author: AngryHorse
It’s seems to be slightly accelerated where I am?, I was in one of our hardware stores yesterday afternoon called Wickes, and took a look at the fluorescent tubes stock.
They still have plenty of Sylvania T8 tubes in 5’ (58 watts), and 6’ (70 watts), but all the 2’ (18 watts), and 4’ (36 watts), have gone!, you can only get 2 and 4 foot in LED tubes now!
Unusually though, another one to be banned, (the 16 watt 2D lamp), there was still a big pile of?
T5 in 8, 13, and the new larger size wattage are still plentiful also, but I think some of them are exempt?

It’s the first time though I’ve ever seen no T8 in 2 and 4 foot for sale in any of our hardware stores here!
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Re: Will the 2023 fluorescent tube ban in Europe affect Australia? « Reply #3 on: July 28, 2021, 01:57:58 AM » Author: Medved
I think these bans effectively come after the lamps are already extinct by "natural forces"(the makers stopped producing them because the already too low customer demand)...
Generally the bans left the specialty lamps sold with only low volumes for long time alone and concentrated just on the (once) main "industry workhorses", which were in use everywhere.
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Re: Will the 2023 fluorescent tube ban in Europe affect Australia? « Reply #4 on: July 28, 2021, 09:08:44 AM » Author: funkybulb
 There already few states in the US that bans fluorescent lamps.    I think the quality of fluorescents will go down hill.
  I find there one independant fluorescent maker then u got servant.  My advice is to stock up on favorite lamps while u
 Can.  Lamp maker dont care about general public.
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Re: Will the 2023 fluorescent tube ban in Europe affect Australia? « Reply #5 on: July 28, 2021, 10:15:14 AM » Author: dor123
I don't aware about a fluorescent lamp ban.
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Re: Will the 2023 fluorescent tube ban in Europe affect Australia? « Reply #6 on: July 28, 2021, 01:21:31 PM » Author: Medved
Lamp maker dont care about general public.

Well, they do, always did and are in fact supposed to care about profit making the lamps they make.
The thing is, things like lamps need to be produced in quantities in order to reach a reasonable unity cost. And of course they have to be sold in such quantities, at a selling price allowing decent margin. Lower the production volume, the higher the unity production cost, so the higher the selling price has to be.
Problem with the fluorescents today is the same as with medium pressure mercury lamps the last half century: There aren't enough customers willing to pay that price to buy that volume of lamps, so producing them does not make profit anymore. And to make profit is the main and only reason for the existence of those companies, so it should be a matter of course they will make only products making profit.
Yes, mainly with production of incandescents, most companies were just waiting with zero margin for others to quit the business sooner, so they will be able to boost selling prices, but that did just led to a very long standoff war, terminated only by the incandescent ban cartel (ensuring all will quit the business at once, so no one able to pump up prices will remain). After that lesson from the incandescents, with fluorescent businessthey don't repeat that mistake (enter similar standoff) and just quit the business once the profitability of a certain lamp type become low or nonexistent. Mainly because the main fluorescent customers were businesses, without that much of sentiment of sticking on the technology like home consumers were with incandescents. So once LEDs became viable and cheaper to own alternative and the customers went over lighting system overhauls, the fluorescent market is just gone.
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