The text of the executive order is this:

... to safeguard the American people’s freedom to choose from a variety of goods and appliances,
including but not limited to lightbulbs, dishwashers, washing machines, gas stoves, water heaters,
toilets, and shower heads, and to promote market competition and innovation within the manufacturing
and appliance industries
...
Within 30 days of the date of this order, the head of each agency shall,
in consultation with the director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the National
Economic Council (NEC), develop and begin implementing action plans to suspend, revise, or rescind
all agency actions identified as unduly burdensome under subsection (a) of this section, as
expeditiously as possible and consistent with applicable law.  The head of any agency who
determines that such agency does not have agency actions described in subsection (a) of this section
shall submit to the Director of OMB a written statement to that effect and, absent a determination by
the Director of OMB that such agency does have agency actions described in this subsection, shall have no further responsibilities under this section.

Also, some of you are getting way to political. Tone it down.
We still use incandescents extensively, and I have heard many people talk about how LEDs make their heads hurt.
Seriously, LED manufacturers need to get their game on. This is a solvable problem!

However, even I'm bittersweet about the unbanning. On one hand, I have more time to stockpile, but on the other hand,
the next ban will probably be even tighter than the current one. This would not be the first time the US has banned them (Obama did it in 2015).

What I dont understand how do we as democratic society even allow bans to happen

It seams nowadays what we dont like we just ban (incondecent lights, EU even tried to ban alkaline batteries once: https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/eu-looks-at-ban-on-non-rechargeable-batteries/ )

I always thought bans happen in totalitaric regimes, not democratic ones

It doesnt matter if ban is justified to some people (eg: forbiden tehnology is causing climate change, and by using it, you are destroying our planet (the replacment tehnology is of cpurse made to look much better, usualy)

PS: why do some people on here complain, like, he unbanned useless lighbulbs, but he should do X (more important thing to me) instead

Why cant be people happy, that he at least did something that is important to people on this forum

So far, I see that importing 110V incandescent lamps intended for the Japanese market into the USA or Canada might be a viable solution for now as they should work somewhat well on a 120V supply with a somewhat reduced service life and they are still legally sold within Japan if you are looking for brand new incandescent lamps.

See here:

https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=lw110v60w&status=on_sale


https://buyee.jp/rakuten/shopping/search/category?query=lw110v60w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v60w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v40w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/rakuten/shopping/search/category?query=lw110v40w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=lw110v40w&status=on_sale


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v80w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=lw110v100w&status=on_sale


https://buyee.jp/rakuten/shopping/search/category?query=lw110v100w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v100w&translationType=1

Thanks, yes that is a neat solution, and since bans are trying to be lifted it importing should be allowed again

Sadly I do live in Europe so I cannot take advantage of this reverse ban (although, I can import from non EU countries like BiH, so everything is not lost), but I am still happy for people in USA

PS: I do wonder how did Japan handle multi voltage in their lightbulbs? How did they prevent u from sticking ur 110V incondecent bulb inside ur 220V socket?

I do wonder if their would be multi voltage houses (half of the house would be 110V, other half would be 220V), since they use both 110V and 220V in the same country

In reality, Japan’s standard voltage is 100V, but from what I have seen, some houses also seem to have 200V supplies since when I have chatted with a Japanese HID lamp enthusiast, they had somehow been able to run a 200V HID ballast at home by using a 200V air conditioning outlet.

See here:

https://youtu.be/HFkDrDeeu6I?si=XpYcfxS5WIVXzdlY

Regarding Japan’s 110V and 220V incandescent lamps, I think they were mainly manufactured for applications where high line voltage was a major concern for 100V and 200V lamps respectively.

Additionally, I am also aware that Japan frequently gets 100V from 200V supplies via a center tap transformer much like how North America often gets 120V from 240V via a center tap transformer as well:

https://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=12529&pos=11&pid=251974

Hold your horses, everyone: https://inside.lighting/news/25-01/watts-going-no-incandescents-arent-back

Even after reading this article, I still feel like getting those 110V incandescent lamps imported from Japan seems to be the best solution if you want regular incandescent lamps in regular use.

The article provided by lcubed was almost an identical take to what Patrick had said earlier. Critical thinking is wonderful, and I am glad it is still present among some of us. The conversation should not be about the person, it should be about the policy or executive order at hand. Arguing as to whether "orange man good" or "orange man bad" will only lead to counterproductive conversations.

For me personally, this potential deregulation has zero impact on my life. I have enough US-made (amongst other places) incandescents to last me an entire lifetime. Except, I only use them in particular situations where I feel incandescent is better suited.

The UK is also an excellent source of incandescents, as 110V is used for construction site lighting.

These Osrams are old British-made stock from the 1990s and work very well in the US. I've purchased several cases and found them to be high quality and long lasting:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/221711152348


inked below are some Omega Pluslifes from the 1980s, another high quality bulb. This seller has many, many cases of 120V bulbs in different wattages and from various manufacturers - message him for details and he'll work with you:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234301124559



A word to the wise when purchasing UK bulbs - if they are not marked 120V or 110/120V, they are 110V bulbs which don't last long on US voltage.

I don’t really use much incandescent bulbs anymore, but I know some people are more sensitive to the LED. Plus the nostalgia factor. I’m more would want to see HID and fluorescent come more again, of course at least we can still get them where I am.

The lights I use most are HID and fluorescent. Occasionally, I have an incandescent lamp for accent lighting.

Same here. For me, I just see that HID lamps and fluorescent lamps are just a nostalgic energy efficiency upgrade from incandescent.

So far, I see that importing 110V incandescent lamps intended for the Japanese market into the USA or Canada might be a viable solution for now as they should work somewhat well on a 120V supply with a somewhat reduced service life and they are still legally sold within Japan if you are looking for brand new incandescent lamps.

See here:

https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=lw110v60w&status=on_sale


https://buyee.jp/rakuten/shopping/search/category?query=lw110v60w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v60w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v40w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/rakuten/shopping/search/category?query=lw110v40w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=lw110v40w&status=on_sale


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v80w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=lw110v100w&status=on_sale


https://buyee.jp/rakuten/shopping/search/category?query=lw110v100w&translationType=1


https://buyee.jp/item/search/yahoo/shopping?query=lw110v100w&translationType=1

That's a great idea!

I do think that lifting the ban on incandescent bulbs would be nice even if it doesn't mean manufacturing will come back to the United States for them, because let's face it, lighting manufacturing in the USA is dead and I don't think it's coming back. And it won't come back as long as it's cheaper to build this stuff overseas. As for demand; I do believe there is demand for incandescent lamps, I've been to a couple of restaurants that were still relamping with halogen bulbs up until those were banned, I've come across eBay listings for pre-2014(?) Incandescent lamps for $5 or $6 per bulb with 100s of sales, I even met a couple at a local thrift store who were looking for incandescent bulbs in lamps and other donated fixtures. So while I do not see demand ever being what it used to be, but I do believe that there is just enough demand to sustain a couple factories overseas.

Now, as for some of the... other comments: I don't believe there's much to worry about, unlike what a lot of "news" outlets like to say, so I think we're going to be alright, much like last time he was in office. That's all I'll say because I don't want this post or thread to be nuked.