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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #15 on: May 25, 2025, 03:56:56 PM » Author: tigerelectronics
Indeed, but we are smarter than they are  ;D
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #16 on: May 25, 2025, 04:35:35 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Have you been trying other variants of EU versions of eBay?
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #17 on: May 27, 2025, 04:32:12 PM » Author: James
It all comes down to politics and governments.  In the vast majority of countries of the world, governments have only two purposes:
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #18 on: May 28, 2025, 01:33:47 AM » Author: dor123
And I'm generally seen that the shipping prices on eBay, at least for lamps, are monstrous.
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #19 on: May 28, 2025, 05:15:13 AM » Author: veso266
It all comes down to politics and governments.  In the vast majority of countries of the world, governments have only two purposes:

what are those purposes? I suppose one is screw the small man over, but I am not sure what the other one is

BTW: Wait, there are countries where goverments are not like that and actualy work for the people (which countries are theese?)
Also that also means there are still places the enjoy all the light sources and no matter what light source u desire, you can still buy it (nothing is banned, if you want LED you buy LED, if you want T12 Flurescent u buy that or if u want incondecent u buy that)

I do wonder, are there countries where they happily use incondecent lightbulbs and have no plans to change (like Bhutan, where they still have human traffic signals )
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #20 on: June 19, 2025, 03:15:51 AM » Author: beatoven
My hope is that the shifting political winds means this ban is short lived. There are a few encouraging developments, one of which is the Supreme Court striking down the Chevron doctrine, which effectively strips government agencies of their power to ban things: https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/supreme-court-strikes-down-chevron-curtailing-power-of-federal-agencies/

Another recent development is the introduction of legislation to repeal the incandescent ban: https://www.energy.senate.gov/2025/5/chairman-lee-introduces-bill-to-end-biden-era-lightbulb-ban

I'm cautiously optimistic about the situation, and if I'm reading the tea leaves right, in about a year incandescents should be back on the scene.
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #21 on: June 19, 2025, 08:24:09 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
 Doubt it . I can't see any lighting manufacturers replacing all of the now scrapped lamp making equipment to restart production of incandescent . Near the end , all I saw on store shelves were super dusty boxes of incandescent . The only real sales of them came from people like us . The bans my go away but the banned items won't come back .
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #22 on: June 19, 2025, 10:54:11 PM » Author: Patrick
Manufacturers are still producing exempt 15-25W general purpose incandescent lamps, as well as 250W plus other specialty lamps.  I'd have to imagine some plants are still capable of producing the wattages in the middle, though of course they are not located in the U.S.  I expect they will return, but given the lack of domestic producers plus the pressure to compete with LED lamps which have become considerably less expensive, most of what will become available will be dollar-store quality.

Another factor working against the return of domestic manufacturing is the fact that the market for all lamps, including LED, is likely to decline the the coming years or at least its growth will be limited.  I'd be curious if anybody has sales data, but with the rise of integrated LED fixtures including those for the residential market, I'd expect customers to purchase fewer replaceable lamps over time.

Of course for anything to happen with incandescent, the legislation would have to pass.  Less than 10% of bills introduced ultimately become law, so I wouldn't get my hopes up too much yet.  There's also the possibility of the ban being reenacted by a future congress, though if incandescent sales remain low which is likely, even a congress more disposed to regulate might not be inclined to restrict them.
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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #23 on: Today at 02:35:30 AM » Author: RRK
A real reason may be a lack of demand. Seriously, why do one need a regular incandescent in 2025? Outside of nostalgia and collector reasons? This not to start a flame war, sure. 12V halogens, may be... But still energy demand is unjustified, even for them.

There is no real blanket incandescent (or HID or fluorescent) bans where I live. But I honestly have not used a general incandescent for lighting application may be for the last 15 years or so at my own will. Incandescents are still easily available to buy if anyone wants.

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Re: eBay is trying to stop incandescent sales « Reply #24 on: Today at 04:12:34 AM » Author: beatoven
Valid points, and none of them are taken (at least by me) as inciting a flame war! I'm convinced that advancements in technology would have eventually displaced incandescents, regardless of whether they were banned or not.

My personal take is that it boils down to consumers wanting a choice. Many people are fine with LEDs and other technologies, and it's undeniable that in they are superior in many areas, especially when it comes to energy use.

However, there are also quite a few who prefer the light quality and characteristics of an incandescent. This is something that cannot be fully replicated by LEDs or fluorescents, due to the fact that incandescents are black body radiators. For that reason there will always be a demand for them, albeit significantly less than in the past, but enough to justify their manufacture and sale.

Assuming the ban does get reversed, the damage has pretty much been done and I doubt we'll ever see incandescents produced on the scale they once were again. That being said, though, things like vinyl records, Polaroid camera film, and vacuum tubes have all seen a revival in the US in recent years. What I think will happen is someone will gather together whatever lampmaking equipment is left and start domestic production again. There's certainly money to be made doing this, especially for specialty/niche applications, as well as offering the traditional bulbs to the public. Given that most people are fine with LEDs for the majority of their lighting needs, I don't foresee the higher cost per bulb being an issue if they are mostly going to be used in things like table lamps or vanities.

Anyway, just my own thoughts on this - only time will tell how it'll actually unfold.
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