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Running lamps on the Wrong Ballast Intentionally « on: December 12, 2025, 06:49:46 PM » Author: NeXe Lights
Currently, I have a 400W PSMH Westinghouse lamp made in China, and I also have a GE M400 in 400W HPS, which are obviously two different lamp technologies. Recently, I was wondering what would happen if I ran the 400W PSMH lamp on the 400W HPS ballast. The arc voltage drop is higher than that of a 400W HPS lamp, so how would this affect the ballast? Would it overload the ballast?
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Re: Running lamps on the Wrong Ballast Intentionally « Reply #1 on: December 12, 2025, 08:04:05 PM » Author: Multisubject
Going by reference ballast characteristics (not exactly realistic, but good enough), the 400W HPS needs 38.3 ohms at 220V while the 400W MH needs 45 ohms at 220V. That is a 16% difference, so not insignificant.

According to my Desmos calculator which has a history of being semi-correct, running a 400W MH lamp on 38.3 ohms at 220V will run it at almost 4 amps, which is a 23% lamp overdrive, assuming that the lamp voltage doesn't significantly decrease from the normal 135V (not exactly realistic, but good enough). Very significant lamp overdrive, but probably fine for short periods or with a lamp you don't care about.

This would mean that the ballast meant for ballasting 400W lamps is now ballasting a lamp that is operating at more than 400W (probably around 500W if I were to take a wild guess). The secondary coil would probably be fine since it would be carrying less current than normal, but the primary will probably carry more current than normal due to the increased secondary wattage. If you choose to do this, just monitor the temperature and make sure it doesn't get too hot I guess. Long-term it will certainly reduce ballast lifespan.
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Re: Running lamps on the Wrong Ballast Intentionally « Reply #2 on: December 12, 2025, 09:30:43 PM » Author: Ash
I second Multisubject's answer

There are PSMH lamps for the European market rated for this exact use (400W HPS ballast), but there the ballast is just a choke so there is no primary winding to overload

500W is a significant overload, so unless the ballast is running in a significantly reduced ambient temperature (able to compensate for ~20W ish additional loss), this will probably lead to overheating of the ballast

A ballast of this size has high thermal capacity, and may take well over an hour to stabilize at steady state temperature for measurement


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Re: Running lamps on the Wrong Ballast Intentionally « Reply #3 on: Today at 12:21:24 AM » Author: RRK
Currently, I have a 400W PSMH Westinghouse lamp made in China, and I also have a GE M400 in 400W HPS, which are obviously two different lamp technologies. Recently, I was wondering what would happen if I ran the 400W PSMH lamp on the 400W HPS ballast. The arc voltage drop is higher than that of a 400W HPS lamp, so how would this affect the ballast? Would it overload the ballast?

Is your 400W ballast of HX or CWA topology?

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Re: Running lamps on the Wrong Ballast Intentionally « Reply #4 on: Today at 09:43:27 AM » Author: NeXe Lights
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