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Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « on: April 11, 2026, 02:33:15 PM » Author: Emersyn
Unfortunately my two non-ww triphosphor F40s both have a bad filament (one has trouble connecting, the other is intact but just runs cold for some reason) so they don't dim well. So I put in an F34, however the ballast says for F40WT12 lamps. I can see how it wouldn't like it at full power, but if it is dimmed, is it okay to run? The ballast doesn't get hotter than normal or buzz or anything.

It does create an interesting start though, the F40 starts up normally and is brighter while the F34 hasn't start, the F34 on the other hand glows at the ends for a second before starting.
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Re: Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « Reply #1 on: April 11, 2026, 08:36:51 PM » Author: rapidstart_12
If the ballast says it’s good for energy-savers, I don’t see what the problem is.
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Re: Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « Reply #2 on: April 12, 2026, 09:00:09 AM » Author: Emersyn
Oops I fixed it, the ballast *didn't* include energy savers
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Re: Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « Reply #3 on: April 12, 2026, 09:24:17 PM » Author: rapidstart_12
Ah, I see. Probably not then.
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Re: Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « Reply #4 on: April 12, 2026, 10:47:45 PM » Author: Patrick
Do have a way to measure the line current, such as with a Kill-a-Watt?  If the line current with the 34(s) is higher than the specified current for 40s, then it is not safe.  If it's lower then it's probably OK at least for a little while.  I'm basing that on the fact using F34s on an NPF ballast for F40s will result in them using more power and burning up the ballast in no time.  By contrast using F34s on an HPF ballast not rated for might make run slightly hotter and stress the capacitor, but usually won't result in an immediate failure provided the ballast was in good condition to begin with.  My impression is that HPF ballasts not rated for F34s will likely have a higher failure rate in the long term, but you can generally expect most ballasts to operate them for years without trouble.
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Re: Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « Reply #5 on: April 15, 2026, 08:18:09 PM » Author: Emersyn
I do and I measured it: The F40 line current is 0.60a and the F34 line current is 0.58a. Based on the fact that the ballast doesn't get super hot compared to other ballasts (being ran at full power), it seems happy!

I can't really tell if it's HPF, or NPF. It lists on the label a PF of 0.88 probably at full power, but at about the 60% I keep it at, it has a pretty poor power factor of 0.62.

Also interestingly, when you take out one lamp, its power consumption jumps! At around 60%, it draws 42 watts, but when I take out one lamp it jumps to 72 watts and the PF drops to 0.30.
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Re: Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « Reply #6 on: April 15, 2026, 08:54:34 PM » Author: Patrick
Are you sure it's 72 watts and not 72 volt-amperes?  If it's truly 72W then the current would be around 2A at that power factor.  If it's 72VA that'd be more like 0.6A and 22W.
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Re: Is it okay to run an F34 on a Valmont dimming ballast? « Reply #7 on: April 15, 2026, 09:02:33 PM » Author: Emersyn
Yup, it was indeed 72 watts! This ballast doesn't really have a good PF at all but I don't know why it jumps in power when a lamp is taken out.
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