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24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « on: May 17, 2026, 08:47:50 AM » Author: Emersyn
I was thinking about lights in elementary school recently when I remembered how often after a power failure, there would be a some troffers in the hallways that wouldn't come back on. I'm pretty sure it was a ballast issue since it was usually whole troffers. So can power cycles on 24/7 fixtures adversely affect them?
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Re: 24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « Reply #1 on: May 17, 2026, 11:23:46 AM » Author: xmaslightguy
This is one of those cases where those ballasts rack up 1000's of hours (possibly even exceeding their rated lifespan). Everything is good & stable, but then a power outage happens...its not so much the outage itself, but the fact it allows things to fully cool down. Components within the ballast that are in marginal condition(simply from all those hours) are fine when they're already warm & operating, but once they've cooled off, they may change properties *just enough* that that coupled with startup(the most stressful time on any electronics) is when a failure happens.
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Re: 24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « Reply #2 on: May 19, 2026, 07:17:22 AM » Author: Emersyn
Ah that makes sense!

What is the standard ballast lifespan? They're never printed on the ballasts themselves
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Re: 24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « Reply #3 on: May 19, 2026, 09:34:56 AM » Author: Medved
The standard life rating is hidden behind the reliability ratings (like MTBF,...), but that is often published only in the corresponding technical documentation (datasheets,...), not on the product label/etch itself, nor on the distribution package box. The rating is supposed to indicate how many failures you should anticipate per some time when operating your larger installation, it does not differentiate if these are really normal wear or random defects.

Usually the corresponding lifetime uses to be in the 100kHour ballpark...
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Re: 24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2026, 04:34:11 PM » Author: RyanF40T12
battery back-up fixtures will fail quicker and will also cause the lamps they power to fail quicker as well.  I've changed out quite a few battery packs and those isolated ballasts for T8 fixtures over the past 20 or so years.  Ironically, we didn't see this type of behavior as much on the T12 emergency battery packs and ballasts. 
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Re: 24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « Reply #5 on: Today at 12:37:59 AM » Author: Medved
Batteries in the emergency fixtures are consumable material, they are supposed to be replaced within 4 years for most types, the "100khour" is for the part that "suppose to last long", like the ballasts, connectors, but also fixture body, reflectors, covers (cracked or unsightly discolored cover is also a failure, of said cover).
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Re: 24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « Reply #6 on: Today at 06:13:25 AM » Author: RyanF40T12
I've got battery packs in T12 fixtures 30+ years still working and holding a bit of a charge. 
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Re: 24/7 fixtures failing after a power cycle « Reply #7 on: Today at 06:48:10 AM » Author: Medved
"Holding a bit of charge" is by far not enough to meet the minimum performance requirements for an emergency lantern. Even old batteries often do light for few minutes, but to be acceptable it needs to provide specified minimum light output with runtime at least an hour (exact time depends on the category). And normally these use to be designed (and the battery type specified) so the thing needs replacement after the 4 years. And usually this is part of the official maintenance recommendation by the manufacturer, so you have to replace it otherwise the light becomes not code compliant emergency light and so may cause the premise to fail safety inspection...
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