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Legal 100 Watt incandescents « on: December 23, 2013, 12:45:22 PM » Author: Keyless
Just came across these, is this to good to be true??? Please say yes  :D

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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #1 on: December 23, 2013, 02:19:09 PM » Author: DieselNut
Awesome!  They get around the "ban" by being 130 volt rated (thus not "full wattage" at 120v) and by being "rough service" (thus classified as a "specialty" lamp).  I am glad there are loopholes.  Too bad ballast manufacturers could not do similar things, with the exception of "sign" ballasts, which are exempt.
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #2 on: December 23, 2013, 02:49:39 PM » Author: Keyless
Im still in disbelief they got around the federal law. Either way I am ecstatic they managed to find a loop hole. I know this, I will be buying a lot of ruff service bulbs from now on :) I hate CFLs and the halogens just dont last as long as they claim in my experience. I don't mind leds, Im test piloting a few with great liking, but no matter what nothing can come close to an old fashioned incandescent.  
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #3 on: December 23, 2013, 03:36:15 PM » Author: Medved
This loophole exist in Europe as well, but the problem is, for the same output as the original 100W you need at least a 150W lamp...
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #4 on: December 23, 2013, 04:35:32 PM » Author: AngryHorse
And their, (no doubt), thrown together far eastern tat?
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 04:40:21 PM » Author: jrmcferren
The law has a rule that if the sale of rough service lamps double, they get banned.
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #6 on: December 23, 2013, 05:21:40 PM » Author: Keyless
Thats one of the first things I noticed, the 10,000 hour life is just sacrificed from the light output. But to be fair they have their place in tough to reach or re-lamp fixtures, with a life expectancy more than most CFLs :D The bulbs I guess are similar to the Feit Electric decade brand light bulbs which were some incredibly long lasting bulbs. Those were probably my favorite off all time giving a soft warm glow.

I sincerely hope the law doesnt go after them for exceeding any set limits. If so I will be really heartbroken, but just in case it does happen I plan on stocking up before hand.     
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #7 on: December 23, 2013, 09:04:16 PM » Author: ace100w120v
Yeah the rough-service types are exempt.  Yeah ever seen those SLI "Supreme Extralife" ones?
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #8 on: December 24, 2013, 02:21:04 AM » Author: RyanF40T12
Yup I still have a box of I believe 4 SLI 75 Watt clear, super long life.  I love em. 
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #9 on: December 24, 2013, 05:19:19 AM » Author: dor123
Awesome!  They get around the "ban" by being 130 volt rated (thus not "full wattage" at 120v) and by being "rough service" (thus classified as a "specialty" lamp).  I am glad there are loopholes.  Too bad ballast manufacturers could not do similar things, with the exception of "sign" ballasts, which are exempt.

What I see, is that they dodge the ban not by rating the lamps at 130V (Lamps rated "Between 120-130V"), but by describing the lamps as "rough service", so they can be imported legally, as rough service lamps aren't part of the ban.
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #10 on: December 24, 2013, 06:03:18 AM » Author: Keyless
"What I see, is that they dodge the ban not by rating the lamps at 130V (Lamps rated "Between 120-130V"), but by describing the lamps as "rough service", so they can be imported legally, as rough service lamps aren't part of the ban."


That was a smart move. I am glad they did that I will doing anything for incandescent bulbs in select fixtures.


Just asking all the light bulb experts, between Feit electric, SLI, incandescent (if anyone has tried them) who makes a better bulb?
 
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #11 on: December 24, 2013, 07:10:55 AM » Author: AngryHorse
This `rough service` thing maybe quickly withdrawn, as jrmcferren points out.
A classic thing happen`d in the UK in the 1990/2000s, the government made all vintage cars ,(built in the 60s), exempt from the very high priced road tax, after vintage car collectors complained that they were only using the cars for yesteryear shows.

But the government didn`t specify this, and within 2 years people were getting rid of their new cars and buying older, (more polluting and dangerous), cars from breakers yards just to get around the road tax ban!! ;D

Free tax was soon dropped for everyone, and the rules tightened up, and I can see the same thing happening with a "mass buy up" of rough service GLS, one the powers that be get wind of whats going on.
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #12 on: December 24, 2013, 12:51:47 PM » Author: Michael
Here in Switzerland almost all normal incandescent lamps are banned for domestic use but there is a small lamp manufacturer which still makes incandescent lamps up to 1500W beside their special lamp fanufacturing for special purposes.

They are all made in Switzerland by Righi Licht AG, it's a company I visited this summer.
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #13 on: December 24, 2013, 08:25:49 PM » Author: Keyless
What is the dominating replacement bulb in Switzerland? Hope not CFLs. Can you still get any type of incandescent in a regular store?


Sounds like Switzerland just jumped on the bulb ban. 
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Re: Legal 100 Watt incandescents « Reply #14 on: December 25, 2013, 01:00:42 AM » Author: dor123
In Israel, the dominating replacement bulb is the CFL and the LED. CFLs replaces here HIDs as well.
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