Hi everyone 

Right so basically I've now got the LED crap in my house and I have been trying out LEDS myself in the house where I live! I tried a:

Crompton 10W GLS retrofit which is 'half bodied" 2700K
Crompton Manor all glass GLS retrofit which is satin coated, 3000K
selection of LED candle retrofits from GE, PHILIPS and DIALL

The Crompton 'half bodied' 2700K GLS had a pleasant 2700K light quality although CRI was on the mid low side but the glare was pretty irritating and prevented me from getting good sleep and it made the ceiling look gloomy!!

The Manor satin coated GLS from the Crompton GLS was also pretty shoddy with the 3000K along with its poor CRI creating a ghostly feel and also disruptive to my eyesight with more Blue light coming through. The glare however was not bad as the satin coating did a pretty swell job to it plus it offered ommidirectional light so no gloomy ceiling! But sadly that wasn't good enough for the lamp

The candle LED lamps from all the brands mentioned were the same colour quality, glare level and CRI quality of the 2700K half bodied GLS but the GE ones had a whiter more powerful glare and whiteness to them despite 2700K rated, lol they were like 2900-3000K

So in conclusion my tryout with LEDS wasn't that great and a the end I reverted to incandescent/halogen. I just hope incandescent, halogen, CFL, FL and HID will still be there for me to choose throughout my entire life because if LEDS will replace lighting thats non solid state then its horrifying  because LED DOESNT SUIT ALL APPLICATIONS!!! FGS can just blah blah blah how good LEDS are and will become but sorry NO! LEDS are good for certain applications but NOT FOR EVERY APPLICATION!

Hi everyone 

Right so basically I've now got the LED crap in my house and I have been trying out LEDS myself in the house where I live! I tried a:

Crompton 10W GLS retrofit which is 'half bodied" 2700K
Crompton Manor all glass GLS retrofit which is satin coated, 3000K
selection of LED candle retrofits from GE, PHILIPS and DIALL

The Crompton 'half bodied' 2700K GLS had a pleasant 2700K light quality although CRI was on the mid low side but the glare was pretty irritating and prevented me from getting good sleep and it made the ceiling look gloomy!!

The Manor satin coated GLS from the Crompton GLS was also pretty shoddy with the 3000K along with its poor CRI creating a ghostly feel and also disruptive to my eyesight with more Blue light coming through. The glare however was not bad as the satin coating did a pretty swell job to it plus it offered ommidirectional light so no gloomy ceiling! But sadly that wasn't good enough for the lamp

The candle LED lamps from all the brands mentioned were the same colour quality, glare level and CRI quality of the 2700K half bodied GLS but the GE ones had a whiter more powerful glare and whiteness to them despite 2700K rated, lol they were like 2900-3000K

So in conclusion my tryout with LEDS wasn't that great and a the end I reverted to incandescent/halogen. I just hope incandescent, halogen, CFL, FL and HID will still be there for me to choose throughout my entire life because if LEDS will replace lighting thats non solid state then its horrifying  because LED DOESNT SUIT ALL APPLICATIONS!!! FGS can just blah blah blah how good LEDS are and will become but sorry NO! LEDS are good for certain applications but NOT FOR EVERY APPLICATION!

I agree. Oven lights are certainly most not suited for LEDs. 

You might wanna expand that "blah blah blah LEDs are great" club member list since I'm not the only one who like them and found LEDs that suited whatever they wanted it to do. Oh, sure there are a few LEDs that didn't work out for us. Rare but we had them.

Am I glad I don't live in Europe given how much crap LEDs over there are getting compared to the ones in North America. Either LEDs destined for Europe are crappier than the ones destined for America or it's something else I rather not say since I have a few friends from Europe.

Early LEDs I mean early ones from early-mid 2000s really sucked!!!!!! Dim as crap! I thought they would never have a future for regular applications

Boy I was WRONG!!!

They do awesome, much better than CFL! Although incandescent I’ll say is better except no variety of colors that LEDs can do! LEDs basically come in all colors, can mimic an incandescent design!

They are bright!

They can make tricks like a disco ball bulb

Agreed, LEDS are big NO-NO in ovens but again what if they one day make ones that can tolerate heat? Maybe glass style ones that doesn’t need soldering, remember I thought LEDS wouldn’t make it in normal application use, and I was WRONG!!!

So again, all technology comes out as crap, then become awesome, then becomes crap again because another newer technology is more focused on...then sometimes comes back kinda like carbon bulbs LOL

And yes it seems Europe makes awesome better quality CFL than America but crappier LEDs in Europe but awesome here...go figure!

I agree. Oven lights are certainly most not suited for LEDs. 

You might wanna expand that "blah blah blah LEDs are great" club member list since I'm not the only one who like them and found LEDs that suited whatever they wanted it to do. Oh, sure there are a few LEDs that didn't work out for us. Rare but we had them.

Am I glad I don't live in Europe given how much crap LEDs over there are getting compared to the ones in North America. Either LEDs destined for Europe are crappier than the ones destined for America or it's something else I rather not say since I have a few friends from Europe.

Ok I have to disagree with FGS, Leds if they where to use a light pipe and remote mount them to reduce the heating on the led and place them on the back side of the oven they would also work great there, they also work in a microwave oven as long as they are behind the shielding just like the original light bulb...

@TudorWhiz, I've seen your name several times before on LG, but I didn't know you're an administrator of GOL.
I've thought about making an account with that website for years.

But yeah we all have our preferences, but at the end of the day, we all share the same passion. We're lighting
enthusiasts. So honestly, I look up to all of you regardless of what lighting you prefer to use. That's my take on it.

So in conclusion my tryout with LEDS wasn't that great and a the end I reverted to incandescent/halogen. I just hope incandescent, halogen, CFL, FL and HID will still be there for me to choose throughout my entire life because if LEDS will replace lighting thats non solid state then its horrifying  because LED DOESNT SUIT ALL APPLICATIONS!!! FGS can just blah blah blah how good LEDS are and will become but sorry NO! LEDS are good for certain applications but NOT FOR EVERY APPLICATION!

You can still buy NOS carbon filament bulbs, so I would say you are safe for many years to come but cost might become a major factor, sure it's cool to power up an old school lamp for a couple of hours, but use them full time and they get to be expensive when it's time to replace them, just look up the cost of any length t-17 tube..   

Ok I have to disagree with FGS, Leds if they where to use a light pipe and remote mount them to reduce the heating on the led and place them on the back side of the oven they would also work great there, they also work in a microwave oven as long as they are behind the shielding just like the original light bulb...

Oh, I knew about the light pipe idea. Simply mounting the LEDs wherever the control board is located is usually enough to keep the LEDs from overheating.

I was talking retrofit bulbs in existing fixtures.

FGS, it could be done, but it's not worth the effort or expense, whats 40 watts going into a GLS when your powering a 3500 or 5000 watt heating element.. However silicon carbide leds although not common, because they basically stopped making the blue 6H-SiC types back in the 80's when gallium nitride Leds took over, SiC leds can get crazy hot so unless you have a 900 deg F pizza oven it could be done..

In classic ovens the LED (nor any other "high efficiency" source) has no technical benefit at all.
The thing is, the incandescents are already nearly 100% energy efficient there (mean the classic, not microwaves) and that is obviously quite hard to beat.
The thing is, unlike most other applications, in ovens the heat radiation is directly utilized as part of the ovens heat source, so it is not wasted at all.
The heat delivered by the lamp means the main heater power will become lower (exactly by the same power, as the thermostat keeps the temperature constant), so turning ON a 20W light inside of a working oven means the total power consumption increases by just few 10's mW (the power carried by the light actually escaping the oven cavity through the door's glass). Only the duty ratio the main (e.g. 2kW) heater is operated gets reduced (by 1% in the case of 2kW heater and a 20W incandescent). You can never beat such performance with any LED or so.

However as the time goes, the incandescents will become more and more expensive (because of the shrinking production volume), so their cost will be the main factor, why they will be replaced (most likely by LED's, hope with the light pipe) not in that far future.

Even today many really illumination service applications are already cheaper with LEDS than with any other technology. The thing is, it is not only the cost of the lamp, but the whole assembly and integration into the complete device (with many things the LED lifetime could easily be made to exceed the device's life, so do not need any of the design complications to have the light source user serviceable; the flat format allows simpler mechanical design, making that way cheaper - that has been the case for car rear light design at least last 10 years, even when the car makers tend to "sell" it as reason to boost the car price; today it becomes the case even for the headlights,...)

LED for things like ovens, fridges, and microwave use is a pointless discussion!, their not needed for appliances, the total run time of a few seconds, (to a minute at most), in appliance lighting doesn`t warrant even using LED lamps as Medved points out.
I also don`t get??, (or have even noticed), all this `poor CRI`, glare, and `blue light myth` in ANY of the wide range of LED lamps I have used/in use, if anything blue light (as in UV form), is noticed by me more in linear and CFL flurescent lighting than LED?

.....must be just my eyes that can`t pick up on this.....?