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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #15 on: September 06, 2020, 10:37:07 PM » Author: RyanF40T12
we had rolling blackouts as they call it here back in the 90s, but were able to bring in more capacity with the addition of a few natural gas fueled power stations and conversions of a few old coal burners to natural gas with higher output equipment. 
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #16 on: September 06, 2020, 11:06:17 PM » Author: Bulbman256
:lol: Wait 'till you get to experience a "high" temp in the single digits !!  :lol: We had that one a few years ago , I think the actual high was something 4 or 5°f  ! :poof: I didn't like it ! :lol:

When that huge freeze happened in 2018 i think i was waiting outside for my school bus at 12F In FOUR layers of clothes and still was cold! (fortunately one of my Friends parents let me warm up in there car) Not fun but i gotta get used to the negatives here in the midwest. :o
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #17 on: September 06, 2020, 11:34:08 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
Trust me , you'll NEVER get used to the cold temps ! I've been trying for 50 years !  :lol:   I will say , I lived in Georgia for 8 years and  I'd rather have 12°f and snowing than have 34°f and raining ! :o
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #18 on: September 06, 2020, 11:52:17 PM » Author: HPS_250
@Wide-Lite 1000 I’d actually like a high in the single digits right now! It was 112 degrees at my house today. I don’t know if I’d get used to temps that cold OR this hot, it’s so hard!  :lol:

@RyanF40T12 : Most of the extra power to prevent even more rolling outages here comes from natural gas plants or solar panels.
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #19 on: September 06, 2020, 11:55:00 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
No Thank You !  :lol:
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 11:58:53 PM » Author: HPS_250
No Thank You !  :lol:

It’s just too hot! I’d like 10 minutes of 30 degree temp just to cool off my house for the night because I don’t have AC.  :lol:
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #21 on: September 07, 2020, 12:18:53 AM » Author: wide-lite 1000
That sucks !
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #22 on: September 07, 2020, 12:30:29 AM » Author: Wireman
Trust me , you'll NEVER get used to the cold temps ! I've been trying for 50 years !  :lol:   I will say , I lived in Georgia for 8 years and  I'd rather have 12°f and snowing than have 34°f and raining ! :o
I agree. There's nothing worse than wet and cold.
I remember starting work one morning and it was around 40 maybe 45 degrees and the shell of the building that we were attempting to wire was flooded with 4" of rain from the night before.
Not to mention that the wind blowing through there wasn't doing my absolutely miserable cold any good either!
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #23 on: September 07, 2020, 12:34:36 AM » Author: HPS_250
I agree. There's nothing worse than wet and cold.
I remember starting work one morning and it was around 40 maybe 45 degrees and the shell of the building that we were attempting to wire was flooded with 4" of rain from the night before.
Not to mention that the wind blowing through there wasn't doing my absolutely miserable cold any good either!


I’d have to say that I think the opposite is true for me in CA. Hot and dry is just plain bad here. I’m talking about huge power outages, temps of 110+, humidity in single digits, and possible uncontrollable fires. I really miss rain. There hasn’t been any since April!  :o
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #24 on: September 07, 2020, 11:29:18 AM » Author: sox35

I’d have to say that I think the opposite is true for me in CA. Hot and dry is just plain bad here. I’m talking about huge power outages, temps of 110+, humidity in single digits, and possible uncontrollable fires. I really miss rain. There hasn’t been any since April!  :o
Come and live here, we get plenty  :lol: :P
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #25 on: September 08, 2020, 08:00:14 AM » Author: Medved
To be honest I was feeling better in the 40+ degC (in the shadow) heat of August in Arizona's deserts (just need a lot of water to drink, but otherwise feeling fine) then here in central Europe at 27..32degC summer (sweating like heck). Clearly the humidity makes a difference...

But fortunately here the utilities do not have to resort to the rolling blackouts to prevent the network from collapsing...
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #26 on: September 08, 2020, 08:11:35 AM » Author: Wireman
To be honest I was feeling better in the 40+ degC (in the shadow) heat of August in Arizona's deserts (just need a lot of water to drink, but otherwise feeling fine) then here in central Europe at 27..32degC summer (sweating like heck). Clearly the humidity makes a difference...
Arizona is a dry, desert heat, I can take that, for the most part. As you say, the killer is humidity. It's 63% here at the moment, which might not be excessive by Florida standards, but is way too much for me  :poof:
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #27 on: September 08, 2020, 09:26:24 AM » Author: Wireman
Arizona is a dry, desert heat, I can take that, for the most part. As you say, the killer is humidity. It's 63% here at the moment, which might not be excessive by Florida standards, but is way too much for me  :poof:
63% humidity? As a true Floridian that's a nice day and lower than that it starts to feel like the dry desert of Arizona. It is the humidity that makes the difference! A summer afternoon here in Fort Lauderdale is around 90 degrees F with the humidity running around 75%! That creates a heat index (feels like temperature) of around 105. When I'm crawling through attics pulling electric cables it's well over a 150 inside them!
It's interesting how the electric grid here can handle the summer air conditioning load but if gets to cold in the winter that's when problems can happen.
Fortunately that isn't very often.
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Re: Rotating Power Outage Groups « Reply #28 on: September 09, 2020, 01:07:59 AM » Author: Medved
It's interesting how the electric grid here can handle the summer air conditioning load but if gets to cold in the winter that's when problems happen

Well, if the wiring is tightened during hot wheather, at cold it contracts and maybe get overtightened.
Plus metsl gets more brittle at colder temperatures.
But mostly, I think, it is not only the temperature (although people tend to blame mainly that), but the other weather effects, usually coming along in the area, which are the most devastating: Wind, heavy rains (so poles loose foundation strength, equipment "on its last leg" tend to break just when getting wet,...), sometimes ice buildup (adding many times extra weight and wind resistance; quite common problem here at winter),...
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